Perry, We applaud after musical worship at our church, and we are applauding the Lord. I don't think that "Music of the Night" is evil; it's just a parody of evil in a comedic musical about a Dracula-type character. I guess if you don't like secular entertainment, then you wouldn't like it. But then you should call all secular music evil. I was just making the point that the haunting chords that they parody in that musical are "evil" sounds in real life. Spooky!
I LOVE good hymns and worship songs; particularly songs with a Hebrew rhythm. Izzy -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles P. Locke Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 12:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Brother Glenn Izzy, A church I used to attend once had a man sing "Music of the Night" during a service. He did a wonderful job, and everyone applauded. The pastor then walked onto the platform and announced, "You have just applauded evil". You could have heard a pin drop in the auditorium of about 1000 people. After reading in 7 places in Psalms to make a "joyful noise unto the Lord", plus Psalm 150, which mentions many types of instruments, I can not really say that any particular "noise" cannot be a joy to the Lord. But, the question is, I feel, are we bringing glory to God in the making of that noise? In some cases, I would say so, but in others, I would say no. The same church I mentioned above had a choir called the "Joyful Noise Choir"...consisting of mentally challenged sunday school attendees, children and adults alike. When they tried to sing a song, it was not very pleasant to my ears...but when I saw the enthusiasm with which they sang these songs to God, I could not help but find it glorius. And I could not help but feel that He did as well...probably much more glorius than the joyful noise I try to make! Fortunately for me, He meets us where we are. One turn-off, I feel, to modern worship service "performances" is that people applaud the performaners and the performance. Are we not in a worship service to bring glory to and worship God? Is it wrong to recognize human performances in such a setting? After all, the gifts they are exhibiting are from God. Should we instead yell, "Thank you, God, for the wonderful gifts you have given to them to use in praise of you!"? My resolution to this has been to not applaud during or following the "performance", but if I was moved by the worshipful nature of the performance, to seek out the performer after the service to tell them what a great gift God has given them, and in what a wonderful way they are using it to His glory. Perry >From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Brother Glenn >Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 10:27:58 -0600 > >Perry, > >One of my favorite stage musicals is the Phantom of the Opera, with it's >overdone haunting organ music--what a hoot, all done in jest. But that's >what I call "evil" harmony! The "mind reading" site was spooky and fun, in >the same way--only because I knew it wasn't really "reading" my mind. > >I don't like Christian hard rock or rap; just can't get into it and find it >to be irritating at best. I doubt it saves anyone, either. It is not >something I want my children listening to. But I'm no authority on whether >it should be banned as "non-Christian". What do you think? > >This reminds me of when my sons, Scot and Todd, were in elementary school >and had friends who were collecting recordings of such groups as KISS. They >asked me if they could buy some. I smiled and told them they could buy >whatever they wanted to buy; but to just keep in mind that when they >brought >anything like that home I'd smash it up with a hammer, because the Lord >said >to allow no evil thing in our homes. We never had a problem with that kind >of trash in our home. (And of course Scot and Todd are Wonderful people, >now, as adults--but I'm not biased!) > >Izzy > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles P. Locke >Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 8:21 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Brother Glenn > >The "mind reading" site is indeed clever. But it brings up a great question >for the gtroup! How many were even a little afraid to try it, thinking that >it might have some occultic basis that God would not like? After all, it >does claim to be reading your mind! And it does use ancient pictograms! And >it does always come up with the right symbol (if we have done our math >correctly). > >Now, upon learning the trick, we find out that there is no magic, no mind >reading, no consulting spirits, that it is only a mathematical trick being >played on our minds, not a magical one. Did that not make it different for >you? Now it is just a mathematical trick that is fun to play with. Is it >still wrong because it CLAIMS to be reading your mind, or because it uses >pictograms, or because the vehicle for the answer is in the image of a >"crystal ball"? > >Some early Christians considered certain musical intervals and harmonies to >be evil, thus they were not allowed. That is what gave rise to the old >"Gregorian Chants". Any interval or harmony that sounded discordant was >considered evil. Eventually, additional intervals and harmonies were >accepted, and limited harmonized music was allowed. As more and more >intervals and harmonies were allowed, music became very rich in harmony. > >Some music today is still considered evil. Is it because of the sound of it >or is it the words? Do we still hold some intervals and discordant >harmonies > >to be evil? Is "Christian Rock" pleasing to God? Will these someday be >accepted as pleasing to God? Is it based on what purpose the performer >intends, or is it based on our interpretation or dislike for the sounds >created? (There are seven references in the Psalms to making a "joyful >noise" unto the Lord! What does He consider "joyful" and "noise"?) In fact, >some churches today still do not allow instruments in their sanctuaries (in >spite of Psalm 150) and sing all of their hymns acappella. > >Perry > > > > > >---------- >"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may >know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) >http://www.InnGlory.org > >If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a >friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." 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