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Perry:
I didn't write the verse, and it is not my role to be your conscience.
My only suggestion would be to listen to the guy who did
write the verse, and let His Spirit guide you.
Blessings,
Terry
-------Original Message-------
Date: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 11:52:57
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Brother Glenn
Terry,
So, we might assume from the verse you referenced below that if some
musical intervals appear evil to you that you should abstain from listening
to them and producing them...but, if they do not appear evil to me, then it
is okay for me to hear and produce them? There does not seem to be a
Biblical standard for music...and after reading that we are to make a
"joyful noise" unto the Lord, we may disagree on what He would see as a
"joyful noise".
As, for the "mind reading" site, although it is nothing more than a
mathematical trick, we should refrain from it because it "appears" (on the
surface) to be evil, that is, it disguises the simple mathematical trick as
a forbidden activity?
Has DavidH sinned by sending it to us? Shame on you, David. I knew there
was something occultic about you! <VBG>.
Also, if we were to discover that the cross, prior to Christ, carried the
connotation of forbidden practices, that is, was used as a symbol by
occultic groups, that we should abstain from using it as a symbol of
Christianity?
Perry
>From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Brother Glenn
>Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 10:25:06 -0600 (Central Standard Time)
>
>KJV 1 Cor. 5:22 Abstain from the APPEARANCE of evil
>Blessings
>Terry
>
>-------Original Message-------
>
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Date: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 08:24:22
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Brother Glenn
>
>The "mind reading" site is indeed clever. But it brings up a great question
>for the gtroup! How many were even a little afraid to try it, thinking that
>it might have some occultic basis that God would not like? After all, it
>does claim to be reading your mind! And it does use ancient pictograms! And
>it does always come up with the right symbol (if we have done our math
>correctly).
>
>Now, upon learning the trick, we find out that there is no magic, no mind
>reading, no consulting spirits, that it is only a mathematical trick being
>played on our minds, not a magical one. Did that not make it different for
>you? Now it is just a mathematical trick that is fun to play with. Is it
>still wrong because it CLAIMS to be reading your mind, or because it uses
>pictograms, or because the vehicle for the answer is in the image of a
>"crystal ball"?
>
>Some early Christians considered certain musical intervals and harmonies to
>be evil, thus they were not allowed. That is what gave rise to the old
>"Gregorian Chants". Any interval or harmony that sounded discordant was
>considered evil. Eventually, additional intervals and harmonies were
>accepted, and limited harmonized music was allowed. As more and more
>intervals and harmonies were allowed, music became very rich in harmony.
>
>Some music today is still considered evil. Is it because of the sound of it
>or is it the words? Do we still hold some intervals and discordant
>harmonies
>
>to be evil? Is "Christian Rock" pleasing to God? Will these someday be
>accepted as pleasing to God? Is it based on what purpose the performer
>intends, or is it based on our interpretation or dislike for the sounds
>created? (There are seven references in the Psalms to making a "joyful
>noise" unto the Lord! What does He consider "joyful" and "noise"?) In fact,
>some churches today still do not allow instruments in their sanctuaries (in
>spite of Psalm 150) and sing all of their hymns acappella.
>
>Perry
>
>
>
> >From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Brother Glenn
> >Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 23:41:45 -0800
> >
> >DAVEH: Ahhhhhh DavidM, you took all the fun out of it! We could have
>had
>
> >Izzy stewin' about this for a month! LOL
> >
> >David Miller wrote:
> >
> > > Izzy wrote:
> > > > Okay, I'll admit I'm an idiot---how does this
> > > > thing WORK? It's too funny!
> > > > http://mr-31238.mr.valuehost.co.uk/assets/Flash/psychic.swf
> > >
> > > Izzy, notice that everytime you try again, the association of symbols
> >and
> > > numbers change. Notice also which numbers are associated with the
>same
> > > symbol. Then notice how the formula causes all numbers within the
>same
> > > range to compute to the same number. For example, 10-19 always
>results
> >in
> > > 9, 20-29 always results in 18, 30-39 always results in 27, etc.
>Hmmm...
> > > look at the symbols for these numbers. They are always the same.
>It's
> > > rigged!
> > >
> > > Peace.
> > > David Miller.
> >
> >--
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >Dave Hansen
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >http://www.langlitz.com
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
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