On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 16:18:46 +0000 "Charles P. Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hey, Glenn, you are not alone. I, too, understand[..]salvation
what is 'salvation'?
 
you know we're in the aftermath of a huge snowstorm here, in Denver..in which i saw numerous examples of 'salvation' (imo) when gracious people used powerful vehicles to rescue those who were 'powerless' (inc the fact that those who were strong enough to shovel had no shovel; also, inc the fact, in some cases, that even those who had a shovel were too old or already too tired to shovel any more:-)
 
imo, 'salvation' like this is a power question--who has the power to rescue you(?)
 
in theological terms, sinners don't--and if you don't want the spiritual help from the sinless One, or, would rather try to get outa the ditch yourself, that still doesn't mean that you have the power of 'salvation', of 'saving' yourself any more than you could dig yourself out of the snow banked ditch (above)
 
in this regard, again, imo, the law is useless--it's like the police coming along and writin' you an expensive ticket for gettin' stuck on his sacred street [whereas the 'savior', as above, defies the police, would even graciously pay the ticket for you---meanwhile, though, hooks you up with his own 'hummer'--one heck of a (salvific) snow machine:-)]
 
ftr, the foregoing analogy seems like very preachable stuff by (e.g.) DrGT and Peter and me, who are not complicating the strait forward teaching of the Bible with a Hegalian dialectic like DavidM (and French Pres. Chirac) and others prefer to do ['dialectic', which one can demo from recent post/s, is DavidM's 'logical' method, rooted in Platonic and subsequent Judaistic thought (e.g., Hegel is Jewish) applied to biblical thought)]
 

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