Glenn wrote: > But you double talk. If what you say > above is true, then salvation is by grace > through faith, plus nothing, minus nothing.
I see your position as double talk. You say that works follow faith, but then you balk if someone suggests that someone might not have saving faith if they continue in sin. I believe that righteousness comes by faith without works, meaning, that the faith itself justifies the person before God. Nevertheless, I believe that such faith causes the Spirit of God to touch the person and cause good works to be manifest in their life. Therefore, I do not believe in "faith alone" like Martin Luther did or like you do, but rather I believe in faith without works, yet with good works soon following. We certainly seem to be splitting hairs from my perspective. I really don't understand all the grand standing about this particular issue. Glenn wrote: > What you say above means one cannot save > themselves. I think you know the context > of Acts 2:40. I agree that we cannot save ourselves, but I do not agree that there is nothing we can do to save ourselves. God has extended his salvation to us, without which no man can be saved. Furthermore, in our deprived condition, we would not even be wise enough to accept his plan of salvation except that he drew us to it by his Spirit. When that happens, however, we must yield to him and respond. There is something we can do to accept his salvation, and that is respond to him, repent of our sins and believe in Christ. There are many things we can do to facilitate God working in our lives, but without Him, there would be nothing we could do of our own accord by our own works or by our own power alone. Glenn wrote: > If the Republican Guard in Baghdad wants > to save themselves, then they must separate > themselves from Saddam H. That is the context > of Acts 2:40. I hope you aren't trying to say that they had to stop being Jews in Acts 2:40. I hope you understand that in Acts 2:40, nobody asked the converts to leave Judaism and become Christians. What was asked of them was to repent of their sins and believe in Jesus Christ. Nobody asked them to change their religion. Do you see that? Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.

