I got tore into by someone on my Torah Commentary LISTSERV. The same old stuff...

 

  • The Law's been done away with, it's been nailed to the cross!
  • All I have to do is love God and love my neighbor!
  • Haven't you read in Galatians �You foolish Galatians... because they again went into bondage to the hard taskmaster?�
  • Jesus fulfilled the law and Jesus lives in me... so I am perfect in His Sight!
  • Wish you would know the freedom of just loving Jesus and not to have to deal with all the old laws!
  • They [the commandments] were to prove that we needed Jesus because if we could become perfect without Jesus then He came and died in vain!
  • I am free from the law, why are you sending these messages!
  • What do you do with a son or daughter who does not mind You take them to the elders and they take him outside of the city and stone him, right? According to the Old Testament! You think you go to prison today if you do that, and get the death penalty? You betcha!
  • Are you saying you don't care, but you obey the Old Testament and do it anyway?
  • I am free from the curse of the law!
  • Jesus paid the price for all my transgressions!
  • Whom the Son has set free is free indeed!
  • If the Holy Spirit tells you to live in a home with naked walls and dull looking furniture whatever, by all means do it. Noah built a boat and the prophets did weird things, so I would never say don't do what God or the Holy Spirit tells you to do. But do not lay it on the shoulders of the people!
  • That is not Gospel!
  • There is all the talk and "revelation " about Christmas... everything is a sin. Hanukkah is not in the bible either ***Slade adds: which it is*** but do people make a big deal over it, betcha!
  • What about the law being nailed to the tree?
  • Let no man judge me what I eat, what I drink, what feasts I keep!
  • Where is the grace?
  • Are you making offerings and sacrifices because that is all in the Old Testament also?
  • Can we put color in our clothes, like rainbow? There were anointed spirit-led carpenters and seamstresses, God choose them to make the tabernacle in the wilderness... He loves beauty.
  • I am saddened that we have to waste time with all this nonsense, could be out there blessing people with the LOVE!

 Perhaps I�m just a bit edgy today. I fear for those who say they can create their own righteousness or that they don�t have to do anything but love because they�re perfect in Jesus and Jesus has forgiven every sin they�ve every done and every sin they�ll ever do. If that�s so, then explain this:

 

�Not everyone who says to Me, �Lord, Lord,� will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.� (Mattityahu 7:21)

 

Where is the Will of Yeshua�s Father found??

 

�Many will say to Me on that day, �Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?� And then I will declare to them, �I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.�� (Mattityahu 7:22-23)

 

What is lawlessness? Could this be called TORAHlessness? This word is �Iniquity� in the Shem Tov and the Du Tillet Hebrew manuscripts of Matthew, and the Hebrew word �Aven� has the understanding of INTENTIONAL DEVIATION FROM TORAH.

 

"Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them, may be compared to a wise man who built his house on the rock. And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and yet it did not fall, for it had been founded on the rock. Everyone who hears these words of Mine and does not act on them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. The rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and it fell--and great was its fall.� (Mattityahu 7:24-27)

 

What is the foundation of your faith built on? Is it the Messiah? Is it the rock that watered the Sons of Yisrael in the Desert? Is it the voice that bellowed from Har Sinai? Is it the �Hayah Asher Hayah� who spoke from the thorn bush that was aflame yet didn�t burn? Is it the Ancient of Days who is destined to come (be it) soon and in our days on the clouds of Heaven with Power and Great Glory? If so, our foundation is one and the same. The One who created the Universe and whose very Shekhinah entered our Universe and burst forth as light in Genesis 1:2 is the same One who perished on a tree outside Yerushalayim for our sins. The PERFECT sacrifice because the sacrifice of a mere mortal can only atone for himself WERE IT EVEN POSSIBLE! This same One declares in His Word that He changes not! How can that be if after His death and resurrection His Will changed?

 

There is one fact I would like to point out to you. I have no idea what is in your heart. I have no idea the inflection in the �voice� of your writings. I could very well be misunderstanding you. There is always a problem with semantics � words mean different things to different people. There�s an additional problem with what people consider Scripture (i.e., Mormons have OT, NT, BOM; Judaism has Tanakh, Mishnah; some Christians have OT, NT, Scofield Notes <this is supposed to be funny>, Catholics have OT, NT, Church Fathers, Papal comments, speeches, and writings); this creates an immediate problem that cannot be easily solved without underpinning the basic tenants of someone�s faith.

 

In my next email, I will give the basic tenants of my faith so I can lay it all out on the table in plain English. Let me know what you think, how you agree, how you disagree, etc. Lay yours out in plain English as well so we can all understand. Explain words (semantics) whenever necessary, and I�ll do the same. Ok?

 

-- slade
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, 31 March, 2003 21:45
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Everyone Has Sinned Inadvertently

> Slade wrote:
> > Like those who visited Paul in his home-prison,
> > some today are not persuaded and they prefer an
> > ambiguous set of rules that cannot be defined
> > outside the simple and HUMANISTIC "love God.
> > love your neighbor." parameters. In this manner,
> > Christians worship YHVH in a way that seems right
> > in their own eye, which is spoken against throughout
> > Scripture.
>
> I hope you don't think that this is the covenant that I have been
> describing.
>
> Slade wrote:
> > Why do I call it humanistic?  Because we think God
> > will accept whatever we do simply on the merit of
> > our faith. We define within ourselves GOD'S standards
> > of right and wrong when we live this way. This is
> > Humanistic and it's terribly wrong. We worship a God
> > who created us in HIS image. Stop creating God in
> > YOUR image and obey HIS rules.
>
> Again, I hope you aren't understanding me in this way.  If you are, you
> need to speak in a more straightforward manner so that I can clarify.
>
> As for your fear of being called a heretic, no, of course you are not
> that.  What you shared was very good.
>
> Peace be with you.
> David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.
>
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