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Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 11:49 AM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: CLUELESS IN D.C.
g, I certainly agree that the Kingdom of
God is invisible, especially to this world which is ruled by the prince of the
powers of the air. However, we are to be salt and light as much as
possible. One way to do that is to do as much as we can to be lights not hidden
under a bushel. We don’t light the world by caving in to evil
political forces. We do what we can. The Lord will do His part, whatever
that may be—the rest is up to Him. I don’t expect the Rep Party to
usher in the 2nd coming; just hopefully save a few unborn lives and
keep hardworking folks from being taxed into an early grave, etc. Give
folks the freedom to Give their money in stead of having it Stolen by the
State.
The KofG is Righteousness, Peace and Joy
in the Holy Spirit. That’s the only way to enter in and live there.
That should be Today. We enter into it by living righteous lives (by His
Grace). if i see what
this means in the context of JCs teaching, this is what i should do How do you personally do this? I’m sure your writing has
something to do with this. I agree with you totally—whatever the Lord
gives you to do you must do with your whole heart.
Funny,
I think the treasure in the field and the pearl of great price are secret
treasures that no one in this world wants (so they overlook or reject it) are
the painful suffering, the trials and testings, that the Lord sends to purify
us of sin. A bitter gift at first, but sweeter than life itself in the
end. Jesus said, Count the cost before deciding to follow Me. That,
I think, is the cost. If we don’t slay Self, He will help us do it.
Abraham had to be willing to slay his own flesh; so must we.
I couldn’t sleep last night; awoke
worrying about some things. Then the thought came to me that I
shouldn’t worry at all, because Jesus is returning Very Soon. It
occurred to me that Israel was judged 60 years after the crucifixion of
Jesus—had 60 years in which to repent but didn’t. Then it
occurred to me that in 2008 Israel will be 60 years old, and then Judgment will
fall upon the whole world. If there is to be a 7 year pre-trib rapture,
that would be this year! (I’m not sure if there will be such a
thing, actually—but I’m hopeful.) What do you think?
Izzy
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw:
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don't kid anybody, you're trackin'
fine--but like others, inc my extended/family, you're having a hard time
dealing with the implications of my political critiques
it's ok, i'm used to it--at least you asked
an intelligent question, made an intelligent observation, below
so, I'll tell you: the kingdom of God is a
unique spiritual state, Iz--as JC taught, it's present in him, emerging unseen,
unnoticed, like a 1000 year
oak tree from a tiny seed
it's like a small amount of leaven placed
in the dough of the world--pretty soon the dough will rise to bakable (tasty:)
proportions
however, the KoG is also future--radically;
it will come apocalyptically as promised
though it is present in the ministry,
message, person, and works, partic in the miracles of JC, the KoG is yet to
come, when he returns
JCs followers live betw these
times--already saved from the fate of the world in the present age yet to
be saved from destruction like Noah in the age to come
this means the KoG is real acc to the
NT, but rejected for its value, partic given its terms of trade, in most
of the world
followers of JC are not devout common sense
republicans, or 'idiot' democrats:) but those who dwell in KoG now--by
choice/committment; in fact, like in one of the stories JC told, a guy like me,
who, lookin' for a real new deal finds a diamond in the rough, would
be wise to sell off all his holdings/investments to generate the cash to
buy that 'rough' open field overlooked by the 'developers':)
if i see what this means in the context of
JCs teaching, this is what i should do
the fact that i'd own this field is
very costly now, but very wise in biblical terms in the long (ultimate) run
it's not the same as buyin' stock in Israel
<rof> or in Deseret Corp. <x666!>
it's bein' in committed possession of a
unique, conflicting spiritual reality that i buy into myself at any cost,
that few else inc even many of my family care about....yet:)
the reason/s they don't care are evident in
the NT where many people JC encountered were preoccupied with (e.g.) trivial
politics of kingdoms based in systems of thought which the KoG will consume,
destroy as he and the Prophets foretell, eg.:
'I will destroy this temple (which was
constructed of, e.g., 20 ton squares of granite over a 40 year period) and
rebuild it 3 days', JC communicates
Interestingly, this is the main piece of
'evidence' supplied hatefully by his political accusers at his 'trial' in
Jerusalem--the City of David
If that's what Jerusalem (still) thinks,
what makes you think Denver New York or Washington is gonna do different? Which
of GWBs advisors is gonna counsell him to sell off everything it takes to
buy a field no one wants, then lead his party to victory acc to the NT? I
suspect Condolleeza Rice would get laughed right offa 'Face the
Nation'...e.g., check out Prov 23:1-9
gary, I’m having a hard time
following you…are you saying that Jesus, Paul and the NT teach against
my politics? I must have missed that part; want to run it by me again?
Izzy
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw:
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maybe she was studyin'..it's too bad,
though, that women like you would do time 'research'ing politics
indifferent to JC, the Ap Paul, and the NT--you iz crucial to your
own familial dysfunctionalities
Weren’t you the
one who started this whole controversy about GW Bush to begin with? Then
you just sneaked off until it was all over! J Izzy
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The
spell checker on this computer keeps wanting to change her
name from Izzy to Dizzy. Maybe it knows something that I don't.
The problem is that you have a male computer. You need to download a
female spell checker! LOL BTW It's often the
women who take the time to find out about the candidates and research their
platforms. Right Izzy? Laura
gary ottoson * http://ozg2003.blogspot.com
