Fw: RE: [TruthTalk] Coddling sin IS sin

[jandgtaylor1]

From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jt wrote:  Michael Jackson was raised in a cult and has been confused since he was a child. The money and fame came early on and further complicated matters. So the curses on his life were amplified, from the 1980's on you can see him going downhill very quickly. Today he is addicted to drugs and painkillers,  has some kind of chronic skin condition, must wear a wig and a prosthetic nose and is living in a fantasy.  How much worse could it get?   Izzy says:  No one forced MJ to take drugs, MJ lies about his �skin condition��after singing about �Black and White� doesn�t matter, he intentionally had his skin color changed. MJ must wear a prosthetic nose because he has had so much cosmetic surgery (which he also lies about) that he now has what is called an �end stage nose��there isn�t anything left. MJ�s �fantasy� is the result of his own choices.   Izzy:  MJ was blessed with more opportunity than most people ever see; his wealth and fame could have been used for good.   jt: A lot of ppl think he did use it for good. He did all kinds of things for children, expecially sick children and has donated to charities and given benefits; he wrote the song "We Are The World" to help in time of famine. He has a following of people (who are just as deceived as he is) willing to hold candlelight vigils all over the world for him along with misguided souls who get on TV claiming that "Michael just couldn't have done what he is accused of , that it just isn't in his heart and he isn't capable of it"   Izzy says:  Such people are as well-meaning, but as confused, as the very lost Elizabeth Taylor, who excuses homosexuality and perversion of all types, including MJ�s.  As far as singing, We are the World, he is indeed.  We are to reject the world for the Kingdom of God.   Izzy: We ALL have experienced bad things in our lives.  Some choose to overcome by the grace of God. Then God is always there to meet them more than halfway.   jt: And some are in such a state of captivity that they are not free to make that choice.  Michael Jackson is totally demonized and so fragile that if they send him to jail you will be hearing about a suicide.   Izzy says: It is NOT true that  MJ never had a choice. God gives free choice to everyone; He is not a puppeteer. However, there comes a point where one chooses sin to such a point that they can no longer repent, as Dean has written. MJ is demonized and �fragile� due to what he did to himself. We can only look upon him with horror, and the fear of the Lord�s judgment, of which MJ is a prime example.    (snipped Psalm 52, Proverbs 1)   Judy wrote:I will leave the judging to God and apply His Word to my own heart and I do understand by His Word that we are required to walk in love toward all people in His name even those who are messed up rather than rejoice with the enemy over his victory in their fall.   Izzy says: If you REALLY wanted to �apply His Word to my own heart� you would NOT have snipped Ps 52 and Prov 1, above.  You would take it seriously as THE WORD OF GOD, rather than choosing to believe your own fleshly emotions.   jt: So now it is my turn to be judged by you Izzy.  How would you know how serious I am about God's Word?  I think it best to let God be God.  I can't fathom your 'cause and effect' reasoning here ie: I snipped the scriptures because of female fleshly emotions.  My, my,  do you think I don't have a Bible? or that I don't read the right parts?   Izzy: I understand this tendency, especially as a woman.  I know several homosexuals and have a tendency to do the same, and allow my love of them to excuse their depraved state of sin.  But this is na�ve.  It is also sin.  And it never sets the sinner free.    jt: Loving them where they are and speaking the truth to them is the best we can do and it is all we are called to do.   Izzy: God loves us with �tough love��I have noticed that parents who have your coddling attitude raise children who turn out to be monsters. And those parents always make profuse, sympathetic excuses for their children�s sin.    jt: So Jesus going to the cross for us is "tough love?"  Was his forgiveness toward the woman caught in adultery "coddling" her? If I were struggling with a moral problem I certainly would not seek you out Izzy.  You show no compassion or empathy at all and are more like one of Job's comforters., who incidentally God was angry with because they thought they knew it all but were in fact ignorant of the reality and after his restoration Job had to pray for them. Izzy says: I praise God for His many (painful!) reproofs in my life, which have served to teach me that the paths of sin lead to death.  You can be sure that Michael Jackson also received MANY of God�s reproofs along the way, but chose to spurn them in his indulgence for sin. Now he gets to reap what he has sown.   jt: Who was it that said "If only everyone were like me?" How can I be sure of anything other than what God has done in my own life and because of this I know he is merciful, long suffering and not willing that any should perish even though in His foreknowledge he knows that they will; so how am I to be impatient and condemning of others.  Even those who are obviously caught in Satan's web?   You need to learn the difference between the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ and the Law of Sin and Death under which you have placed yourself - apply Galatians 6 to yourself, then meditate on - "Mercy triumphs over judgment"....   Judy