Judy, Why to examine the role of 'contingency' in your view/s :
You say in another post "..and they blew it.",  meaning, obviously,  that A&E 'blew' ensuing history, as we know it; that A&Es *so-called* 'free choice' of evil   *(I'm leaving plenty of room for DavidM to rock 'n roll:)*   still results in a series of ultra-complicated, on-going historical 'contingencies'; in sum, *so-called* 'free choice' per se  got totally 'blown' away..in the Garden..
 
jt: They were both judged in the garden along with the creature used by Satan to communicate with them and yes future generations were affected by their fall, but God had already made provision before the foundation of the world.
 
Well, if you truly disagree, please explain why(?); also, how 'freedom of choice' (rather than 'contingency') yields the current cultural morass of the modern West that (e.g.) the militant 'FG t-shirt' so quickly riles, agitates to a frenzy. 
 
jt: The reason? Basically mankind love the darkness and hate the light because their deeds are evil and the modern West as you call it is fast returning to the old paganistic ways.  Right now Europe is worse than the US but it is also happening here.  It's every fellow for himself and everyone following sensuality.
 
Who in America is 'freely choosing' this society as it is, so lost apart from the grace of God?
 
jt: It comes from the vain tradition we've inherited from our fathers. 
 
If it's you--you've got no further complaint, I suspect
 
Has the grace  of God eliminated all your 'contingency/s'? Pls explain how a 'yes' to this is not dishonest, of the Devil himself  g(entleman)
 
jt: Don't understand the last two remarks/??  You'll have to explain them more exactly.
 
Judy
 
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ftr, it might be wise to examine a distinction betw 'freedom of choice' and 'contingency'
 
Brooks is the one who contrasts the culture of fidelity with the culture of contingency and he goes on to define them; what do I need to examine further?

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