Re: [TruthTalk] God of Mormonism

[Dean Moore]

 

 

 

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From: Kevin Deegan

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Sent: 12/12/2003 11:34:46 PM

Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God of Mormonism

DAVEH:  I fully agree.  But let me explain it from a different angle, Judy.  God created Adam & Eve, knowing beforehand that they would succumb to temptation.  (I assume you agree with that.)  Then he places a temptation in the garden, knowing they would partake of the forbidden fruit, and what the consequences would be.  

Be careful that you do not cross the line to LDS interpretation here Judy. Sounds reasonable, but here is where this is leading. if you read the following then reread the above you may be able to see it also in that staement above. Is this God tempting Adam & Eve?

LDS doctrine teaches, the Lord gave Adam two conflicting commandments so that Adam was forced to use his agency to determine what was truly most important. The fall was a fall upward and was good and joyous.

Moses 3:16-17 And I, the Lord God, commanded the man, saying: Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat, But of the tree of the aknowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it, nevertheless, thou mayest choose for thyself, for it is given unto thee; but, remember that I forbid it, for in the day thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Is this a command or a preference? God would say choose for yourself? Choose sin1 or Choose sin2?  The God of the Bible would never say this!  "Thou shall NOT...thou mayest choose"? Is this "God" talking out of both sides of his mouth?

"For reasons that have not been revealed, this transition, or "fall,"
could not happen without a transgression-an exercise of moral agency amounting to a willful breaking of a law (see Moses 6:59). This would be a planned offense, a formality to serve an eternal purpose. The Prophet Lehi explained that "if Adam had not transgressed he would not have fallen" but would have remained in the same state in which he was created (2 nephi 2:22). Missionary Preparation, Religion 130 p 74 Lesson 10

God wanted Adam to sin? God planned a willful breaking of a law? God placed Adam in a situation that forced him to sin?  God wanted Adam to PARTAKE of what God had FORBIDDEN? So sin is just a formality? This is most perverted!

Brother Kevin-Mormon theology fails to clarifly to me why God would also come to earth in the form of a man to become the perfect sacrifice to return man back to the state he was in before he sinned in the garden. To me this would be a waste of good blood-can one say it was to test man only-if so why does God declare that he wills none to perish-and that his hand is out stretched to man all day long.Christ died for all men-if they repent- not just those that pass the test or those that work to perfection to become a God. Mormons believe that Jesus is the God of this world just as they will be Gods over their own planet. Demon theology-from the mouth of Satan himself-"I will set in the seat of God and be as God". Mormons are not little gods-only little demons-that eat here to infest here- because they can. They work just as hard to promote untruth for Satan -as we do to promote truth for God- Hence workers of iniquity as Esau was -they are-I wouldn't waste to much time on them-but to help those that have been infected on this site is a good work-and worthy. When pressed you will notice them claiming Jesus-to appear as workers of light-to get support from their helpers on this list-you will recognize the sympathizers-they will have something to gain for their support (gainsayers). Hope this helps.