David Miller wrote: > You should ask her, but I'm sure it was not so that > she could post here. Remember that even the devil > can post here. Gary wrote: > how about Beelzebub the Moderator?
What are you trying to say, Gary? I am the moderator of this list. Are you saying that my name is Beelzebub or that I am inspired by him or that I come in the name of Beelzebub? Gary wrote: >>> my question, similar to the other/s (to IZ), is >>> *'a new convert' [to what]*? David Miller wrote: >> To faith in Jesus Christ. Gary wrote: > false--a people do not convert to that which > they're already expressing The point is that one who comes to believe in Jesus Christ should immediately express that faith in baptism. He should be baptized, washing away his sins, calling upon the name of the Lord. Gary wrote: >>> and of 'Superman', too, acc to gist of Kevin's >>> quote/s; in that, they are interchangeable David Miller wrote: >> That certainly would not be my language, but the idea >> that we are meant to be more than mere men, yes. Gary wrote: > <rof * 666!> > ..and who does the Son of God remind you of?.. > the Son of Man?...Hulk Hogan..Paul Bunyan? The Son of God reminds me of Jesus Christ. Those who believe in Jesus Christ ought to walk as Jesus walked. That means being more than just a mere man because Jesus was more than just a mere man. "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name." (John 1:12 KJV) David Miller wrote: >> Gary, try a little experiment. Go jump in some mud >> and get completely muddy. Then go take a bath and >> wash it all off. Are you still muddy? Gary wrote: > this proves that you believe that 'water saves' and > that you can't quit lyin' about it No, Gary, I do NOT believe that water saves. What I wrote is an analogy, to illustrate what the words "wash" and "cleanse" mean. If we understand that one of the symbolisms of baptism concerns washing away sin, then an analysis of how washing removes dirt from the body might help us understand what happens when our sins are washed away by the blood of the Lamb. Gary wrote: > your theology of good (baptismal) appearances don't wash > --Pharisees were always washg; the point is that > 'administrated sacraments' don't/never will cleanse your > sin...it's like washin' a pig..and, as is even clearer now, > JCs understanding of that activity is opposite of yours I agree with your point. The mere fact that sacraments are administered does not in itself mean that sins will be cleansed. Paul taught the following about the sacrament of the Eucharist: For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. (1 Corinthians 11:29-31 KJV) Not everyone who partakes of the sacrament of the Eucharist benefits. The power of the sacrament is not vested in its administration or even in who administers it. The power is dependent upon the heart of the person who partakes of it. The implication in 1 Cor. 11:29-31 is that there is power in the sacrament. We understand that if the Lord's table can bring damnation if it is taken unworthily, then it can bring life if it is taken worthily. Jesus commanded the twelve to baptize. They did so. New converts were immediately baptized. When Peter preached for men to save themselves from their perverse generation, his listeners asked him, "what should we do?" Peter said: " 'Repent, and BE BAPTIZED EVERY ONE OF YOU in the name of Jesus Christ FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.' And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation. Then THEY THAT GLADLY RECEIVED THE WORD WERE BAPTIZED: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls." (Acts 2:38-41 KJV) Peter taught that baptism saves (1 Peter 3:21). Ananias instructed Saul to "be baptized and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord" (Acts 22:16). The Scriptures are the foundation for what I teach. Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
