DavidH and Blaine,
How can you continue in a system in which the founder consistently uttered false prophecy? It is so plain to see to those who are not in the LDS system and who are seeking the truth and see LDS doctrine for what it is.
How long can you continue to llie to yourselves about the flawed theology, false prophecies, adulterous "commands", and cultic indoctrinations? You call yourselves truth-seekers, when in fact you are truth-ignorers. At some level, deep within the piy of your stomach, you must have an uneasy feeling that you are in a false religion.
I am sure you do not know how to get out without great embarassment before your LDS brothers and sisters, and the hardest of all, you will have to admit that all you have been taught is a lie. You will be castigated before your former peers, your "good ol' Mormon boy" image will be shattered. As you pointed out a few posts ago, DavidH, you feel "comfotable" with your beliefs. But, ask yourself this today...will you continue to bask in the "comfort" of a lie, or will you seek a relationship with the true God of the universe? One is "comfortable", while the other brings life.
I guarantee, that once you get enough courage to see it for what it is, the Holy Spirit will open your eyes so wide that you will see the truth, and you will know why we all so desparately want to bring you out of it. If we did not care, we would not be trying to show you the nature of the LDS lie. We would just ignore you.
Perry
>From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave
>Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:48:39 -0800 (PST)
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>This prophecy was given July 12, 1843. At this time, Emma had found
>out about the other women and did not agree with the polygamy. She called
>it what it was... adultery. Clearly Joseph Smith was bearing down
>pressure upon her with this prophecy. Well, Joe was killed less than a
>year later, on June 27, 1844. Therefore, this prophecy was false.
>Emma never went with the LDS group that continued to embrace polygamy. She went with the Reorganized Church which their son led, Joe Smith III.
>Joe never received the houses and lands and wives IN THIS WORLD that he
>had prophesied for himself.
>
>
>By the way the D&C 132 was supposedly recieved in 1842. That was just a cover. It was not printed until 1876 in the D&C until that time, there was the DC 101 on marriage which declared 1 man 1 wife!
>
>Another example of FALSE PROPHECY in this D&C 132 is Verse 54
>
>"And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and cleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be destroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law."
>
>Since Emma did not recieve, fought against the "PRICIPLE" and denied that Joseph ever Practiced it, according to vs 64 a woman is to BELIEVE and ADMINISTER unto her husband. verse 65 she is to recieve it. Emma lived to a ripe old age. Joe died a young man!
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>David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>Kevin wrote:
> > If the official Church Doctrine is ANTI Polygamy.
> > Then why do they still have D&C 132 ?
>
>They believe in progressive revelation that actually changes what was
>practiced before. So they would say that just as the law was changed to
>a covenant as grace, so this has changed. Just as sabbath observance
>was changed, so has this changed. They might also point out that
>polygamy was practiced before Christ, then abolished for awhile, then
>came back again when circumstances warranted it, then abolished again.
>
>The D&C 132 passage is the one that has the false prophecy of Joseph
>Smith that was brought up before. I don't think anyone quoted it, so I
>will take time to do it again. I had brought this up some time back when
>this subject came up.
>
>D&C 132:55
>"But if she [Emma, Joe's wife] will not abide this commandment, then
>shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and
>I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an hundredfold IN
>THIS WORLD, of fathers, and mothers, brothers and sisters, HOUSES AND
>LANDS, WIVES and children, and crowns of eternal lives in the eternal
>worlds."
>
>This prophecy was given July 12, 1843. At this time, Emma had found out
>about the other women and did not agree with the polygamy. She called
>it what it was... adultery. Clearly Joseph Smith was bearing down
>pressure upon her with this prophecy. Well, Joe was killed less than a
>year later, on June 27, 1844. Therefore, this prophecy was false. Emma
>never went with the LDS group that continued to embrace polygamy. She
>went with the Reorganized Church which their son led, Joe Smith III.
>Joe never received the houses and lands and wives IN THIS WORLD that he
>had prophesied for himself.
>
>Peace be with you.
>David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.
>
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