> Dean wrote:
> > But David when we rebuked them you stepped in and spoke
> > against us for rebuking them-Both Izzy and I experienced
> > this-In a sense we were rebuked for rebuking the Mormons.
>
> A lot of people have experienced this. We have one rule on TruthTalk,
> and that is that there should be no ad hominem arguments. You are not
> allowed to insult people or disparage them. You are allowed to
> passionately attack what they are saying. Attack the arguments. Do not
> attack the person.
>
> I realize that both you and Izzy have a hard time understanding that,
> but the purpose of it is to focus on the subject matter being discussed
> rather than on the person. When you attack the person, all kinds of
> emotions start coming into play and the discussion degrades into a
> battle of the wits over ego rather than truth.
>
> Please keep in mind, that if it had been reversed and Dave had attacked
> you, I would have come down on him just as hard. There is only one
> person that I had to ban from the list and that is because when he was
> rebuked by me, he did what he wanted anyway. Some people just like to
> flame others and make them mad. We don't allow that here.
Dean writes:
Was that Jim Webber? Was he sent from this list?If not you might speak to
him because he believes he was banned from this list.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------
> Now in some sense, you are allowed to rebuke, but the rebuke must be
> focused upon the error itself.
Dean writes:
Are you not in a sense-separating the sin from the sinner? David ask
yourself this-What if the Spirit leads one of us to rebuke a person for sin
and you weaken that rebuke? What happens to that person that the Lord sent
the rebuke to create fear in?Do you not think that this could very easily
cause you to struggle against God?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------
You have rebuked me for allowing
> non-Christians on the list. I have not censored you for that. I would
> like to see continued discussion about it. However, if you start
> railing at me and calling me an idiot and not really discussing the
> differences, then we will have a problem.
Dean writes:
No David-I rebuked you nor allowing them to spend a long amount of time
among the brethren-here on this list. I removed the rebuke after Ruben
asked me to-I believe he did this to create unity between the brethern-I do
not think he fully understood the reasons for the rebuke. I have felt that
I did wrong by removing the rebuke-and this has been an ongoing deep
problem for me to deal with-as it won't go away.When have I railed at you
or called you an idiot? What do you seek to make me out to be?A loud mouth
preacher that rails at people and calls them idiots?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------
>
> I try to allow as much latitude as I can for people to correct
> themselves, but if I don't step in from time to time, the discussion
> seriously degrades into useless banter.
Dean writes:
A can of worms-that I suggest you reorganize.I will help all I can.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------
>
> Peace be with you.
> David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.
>
> ----------
> "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may
know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)
http://www.InnGlory.org
>
> If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a
friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
----------
"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you
ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org
If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to
send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
