----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 4:43 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] False Teachers
> > > >Terry wrote: > > > Maybe some day, Dave Hansen will see the light, > > > > because he finally saw Jesus in David Miller. He sure won't see it > from > > > > Blaine, et al. **Blaine writes: Perhaps I should not speak for him, but in my humble opinion DaveH has no need to get anything from me--he does quite well by himself. His testimony is pretty well fixed--like the rock of Gibralter, I would say. I think he does have a genuine concern for you believers in Traditional Christian BS (Belief System), however, and hopes to gain enough insight into your HIGHLY varied beliefs to help you out of your ruts (:>) If he preaches Mormonism at all, it is by default--it is impossible to discuss religion without one's own beliefs entering the picture. If he persists in his beliefs and never comes by > faith to > > > > salvation, it will cost us nothing, but if he is saved, we have > gained a > > > > brother. > > > > > > Dean writes: > > > To have a false prophet in you mist will cost more than you think-that > is > > > why the bible puts the warnings to avoid such people. > > > Romans 16:17 > > > > DAVEH: Do you really consider me to be a (false) prophet, Dean? Or do > you keep me more at the (false) teacher level? As you know, I have never > claimed to be a prophet, nor do I want anybody to think I am such. I don't > even consider myself being a > > teacher, and I don't quite understand why TT folks think I am (falsely) > teaching on TT. > > Dean writes: > DaveH I consider there to be no difference between a false teachers and a > false prophet-not did the early scholars. The words you teach are the same > as a false prophet. You are speaking of different heavens /different > hell/different judgement to come and a different Jesus-Many of these are > future event-future predictions. Therefore you qualify as one.The one you > promote (Joe. Smith) also gave future predictions that failed to come > true-that puts him in this category of false prophet and due to the fact > that you speak his words there is no difference-you and him are one in > purpose and words-you and him are the same. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > As I see it, I have offered my opinion on what I think the Bible says > about certain doctrines. And I have answered questions regarding my (LDS) > beliefs. Mainly I have been quizzing TTers like yourself as to what > they/you believe and why. So how > > does my curiosity make me a teacher in your eyes??? > > Dean writes: > I see far more than just curiosity with your teachings-You are promoting > Mormonism and are trying to add to you church.You believe in Mormonism and > have a hope some/all here will except your beliefs as truth and you want to > be accepted as a christian.In doing so you are serving you master as we are > serving ours. You are very careful in you speech that is why you keep > asking the same questions over and over again-questions are safe and can > lead others into mistakes. Questions don't always reveal truth-they > question truth but the answers are never heard by you. How many times have > you asked me this very same question.Ten? Twenty? perhaps more? > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > -------------------------------- > > > > BTW.....Related to this, do you feel I have been trying to convert > TTers to Mormonism? > > Dean writes: > Yes-with out a doubt ( That was the reason you sent me the Book of > Mormon)-the only difference you are going about it a lot slower then we > are-you word/style indicate that are a very patient man with hope of long > term gain.The kindness you offer -even to me- has/is effective and > appreciated by Christians and in time you will/have convert some on this > list to your way of thinking to different degrees.Most may never fully > convert but the corruption will/is still be present never the less. Beware > of those that come in sheep clothing Every time I return I see gain on your > part-the old saying that it is easier to catch flied with honey then > vinegar has truth in it. I don't offer honey I offer truth as told in God's > word.So in the sort term you will win this debate as my truth will always > be at an disadvantage in this world-for the whole will/must hate > me.Therefore logic will dictate that this world will love you and hear you- > not me. With this in mind-I know that God will draw out his number for it > is foretold that His number will be complete. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > --------- > > > > > > > > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
