Blaine: Is there one god in this universe of yours, Perry?  Did he create it
all?  It seems to be a scientific fact that there are billions of suns like
our own, so it seems inescapable that there are also billions of earths like
this one.  Is there a Jesus for each one?   If not, then why did God choose
this very one to send His only Begotten Son to die on?  This earth is almost
insignificant compared to the many that must be out there.  God created the
universe, but again I ask, What universe?  Do we know all that God does, or
has done?  Obviously we do not.  We learn a little here and there, but most
scientists wold agree that there is more we don't know than do.  The Bible,
according to most Christians, has all the answers, right?  At least where
God is concerned, right?  Or do you suppose there might be a few things
about God that we don't know?  Maybe we try too hard to fit it all into a
nice neat little ball of knowledge, when what we should be doing is keeping
our minds and hearts open to expand our horizens, as little children who are
eager to learn, rather than as adults who already know it all?  Huh?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave


> Blaine,
>
> The universe is all that exists, whether we can perceive it or not,
> excluding the God of the universe (evident in three persons: Father, Son,
> and Holy Spirit), who has always existed, exists, and will always exist
> independently from the universe.
>
> Your turn to give the Mormon twist.
>
> Perry
>
> >From: "Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave
> >Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 16:29:13 -0700
> >
> >Blaine:  I thought you were driving at that, but first I wanted to
> >establish
> >that we believe--as far as immediate gods are concerned--in the godhead
> >indicated in most Christian churches--what they call the Trinity.
However,
> >when we start talking about "other gods," and who is the "King of the
> >Universe," we first must define the term "Universe."    How do you define
> >that, Perry?
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 2:55 PM
> >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave
> >
> >
> > >
> > > >Blaine wrote:  Other gods?   When the plural is used by  Mormons, it
> >means
> > > >God the
> > > >Father,  Jesus Christ the Son, and the Holy Ghost.   These are the
same
> > > >plurality being referred to in the Bible in Genesis 1: 26 which
states:
> > > >"And God said, let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness . .
."
> > >
> > > Oh, yet another Mormon definition that means something other than when
> > > Christians use it.
> > >
> > > Basically, you misinterpreted my question.
> > >
> > > 1. You said, "God knew he secretly intended to usurp his throne, and
> >assume
> > > his honor and glory as King of the Universe."
> > >
> > > 2. What you are saying here is that god the father is King of the
> >Universe.
> > >
> > > 3. Now, according to you guys, jesus is a god, and jesus' father is
god
> >the
> > > father, and he has a father that is a god, and he, again, has a father
> >that
> > > is god, etc, infinitely back in time, right? (I use a lower case 'j'
and
> >'g'
> > > to distinguish between the Mormon jesus and god and the biblical Jesus
> >and
> > > God.)
> > >
> > > 4.  Not to mention that each god had MANY children that are also now
> >gods,
> > > so it might be safe to say there are myriad gods in the Mormon
universe,
> > > right? Maybe even billions. ("billions and billions", to quote a once
> >famous
> > > physicist and atheist, who is now a believer!)
> > >
> > > 5. Are all of these myriad gods "King of the universe", or is only
"god
> >the
> > > father (of jesus)" King of the Universe, as you said he is?
> > >
> > > 6. If he IS King of the Universe, as you said, then how do all of the
> >OTHER
> > > gods in the universe feel about that? Do they want to be King of the
> > > Universe?
> > >
> > > 7. Can there be more than one King of the Universe?
> > >
> > > 8. If not, who is King of the Universe now and who decided that?
> > >
> > > 9. Who was King of the Universe before him?
> > >
> > > 10. Or, are there many universes, and having its own god, who is the
> >King
> >of
> > > only that Universe?
> > >
> > > Inquiring minds want to know.
> > >
> > > Perry
> > >
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