Kevin wrote:
The BoM is a work of FICTION:
Blaine writes: There is so much about the book of Mormon that
tells us
it is true, we don't need to know exactly where everything was,
but we
believe and have faith it will be revealed in the Lord's own due
time
anyway--He has not failed us yet.
Judy:
How would you know whether or not He has failed you yet in these
'geographical' things?
Blaine:
We know God is testing our faith--He will pull our very heartstrings
to see if we can stand it, and if we can't, we are not fit for the
Kingdom
of God--so, Kevin, and Judy, when the locations are eventually shown
to man, you will be ashamed for not having had more faith,
Judy:
Faith in what Blaine - the book of Mormon?
Blaine:
while we will be rejoicing, having had our faith tested, and having
kept
the faith as true and loyal servants.
Judy:
This is an alien thing so far as true Christianity is concerned. We are
to
contend for the faith ONCE DELIVERED TO THE SAINTS and
this is
certainly not the writings of Joseph Smith.
Blaine:
Our confidence will wax strong in the presence of God, but you will go
away with your heads hanging down, unless you repent of your arrogance
and pride.
Judy:
It is not 'arrogance and pride' to be Berean and check things out.
Paul
commended the Bereans as being 'more honorable' than the fold in
Thessalonica because they checked his message by the scriptures -
and
spiritual discernment is needed more than ever today.
Blaine:
BTW, there are already several newer books written by
BYU people
regards the locations in the BoM--very interesting stuff. But
considering
you are so anxious to make anything favorable to Mormonism appear
wrong, or evil, I have fears you will not read them, or if you do read
them, you would just fault them.
Judy:
I wouldn't read them or spend time trying to fault them
Blaine because
I don't see any need for all the geographical stuff and there is
no valid
evidence that Samaritan tribes left the middle east.
Blaine:
Your quotes below are all back in the 60's and 70's-- any new
stuff?
I do have some things written more recently--all one has to do is visit
Deseret Book Store. Thye shalves get fuller and fuller.
Judy:
The question is whether or not it is TRUTH - truth is
timeless and
does not depend on wordiness or popularity.
Grace and Peace,
Judy
From: Kevin Deegan
To:
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Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Geography of Never Never land
The BoM is a work of FICTION:
BoM Student Manual Religion 121 &
122 published by the churchpg 163 has a
map under the title "Possible
Book o Mormon sites"
under the map we find this interesting tidbit of information
"NO
EFFORT should be made to identify points on this map with any
EXISTING
geographical locations"
The Smithsonian Institution has never used the
Book of Mormon in any way
as a scientific guide. Smithsonian
archeologists see no direct connection
between the archeology of the New
World and the subject matter of the
book." ("Statement Regarding The Book
of Mormon," Smithsonian
Institution, Spring 1986)
Michael Coe
Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought, Summer 1973. After
telling of the
Mormon belief in Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon, he
frankly stated:
"Let me now state uncategorically that as far as I know
there is not one
professionally trained archaeologist, who is not a
Mormon, who sees any
scientific justification for believing the foregoing
to be true,...
nothing, absolutely nothing, has ever shown up in any New
World
excavation which would suggest to a dispas! sionate observer that
the
Book of Mormon... is a historical document relating to the history
of
early migrants to our hemisphere." (pp.42, 46)
"The first myth we
need to eliminate is that Book of Mormon archaeology
exists�. If one is
to study Book of Mormon archaeology, then one must
have a corpus of data
with which to deal. We do not. The Book of Mormon
is really there so one
can have Book of Mormon studies, and archaeology
is really there so one
can study archaeology, but the two are not wed. At
least they are not wed
in reality since no Book of Mormon location is
known with reference to
modern topography. Biblical archaeology can be
studied because we do know
where Jerusalem and Jericho were and are, but
we do not know where
Zarahemla and Bountiful (nor any other location for
that matter) were or
are. It would seem then that a concentration on
geography should be the
first order of business, but we have already seen
that twenty years of !
such an approach has left us empty-handed."
(Dialogue: A Journal of
Mormon Thought, Summer 1969, pp. 77-78)
Kevin Deegan <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Long ago & far away....
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,585038271,00.htmlSACRED
SITES: Searching for Book of Mormon Lands, by Joseph L. Allen
Joseph
Allen starts with a premise of the LDS faith: "The Book of Mormon
is a
real history. It speaks of real people. The events recorded within
its
pages happened somewhere."
But where?
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