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Subject: [TruthTalk] Geography of Never Never
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> From: "Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Kevin wrote:
> The BoM is a work of FICTION:
>
> Blaine writes: There is so much about the book of Mormon that tells us
> it is true, we don't need to know exactly where everything was, but we
> believe and have faith it will be revealed in the Lord's own due time
> anyway--He has not failed us yet. We know God is testing our faith--He
> will pull our very heartstrings to see if we can stand it, and if we
> can't, we are not fit for the Kingdom of God--
>
> Judy:
> What exactly about the book of Mormon tells you it is true Blaine?
> What I can't figure out is why you would prefer that to the Holy Bible?
> From: "Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Kevin wrote:
> The BoM is a work of FICTION:
>
> Blaine writes: There is so much about the book of Mormon that tells us
> it is true, we don't need to know exactly where everything was, but we
> believe and have faith it will be revealed in the Lord's own due time
> anyway--He has not failed us yet. We know God is testing our faith--He
> will pull our very heartstrings to see if we can stand it, and if we
> can't, we are not fit for the Kingdom of God--
>
> Judy:
> What exactly about the book of Mormon tells you it is true Blaine?
> What I can't figure out is why you would prefer that to the Holy Bible?
**Blaine: How could you figure it out?
You haven't read it! You can't draw water from a dry well.
(:>)>
> Blaine:
> so, Kevin, and Judy, when the locations are eventually shown to man,
> you will be ashamed for not having had more faith, while we will be
> rejoicing, having had our faith tested, and having kept the faith as true
>
> and loyal servants.
>
> Judy:
> What if at His coming you learn that your faith has been misplaced?
> Blaine:
> so, Kevin, and Judy, when the locations are eventually shown to man,
> you will be ashamed for not having had more faith, while we will be
> rejoicing, having had our faith tested, and having kept the faith as true
>
> and loyal servants.
>
> Judy:
> What if at His coming you learn that your faith has been misplaced?
**Blaine: My faith in the BoM is such that I
don't worry about that. I have read the BoM several times--each time,
I have had my faith in it reinforced.
> After all, we will be judged by the words that
Jesus spoke, not the book
> of Mormon. (see John 12:48)
> of Mormon. (see John 12:48)
**Blaine: The BoM is chock full
of Jesus' sayings. We will be judged by all of God's words,
including, I believe, the BoM. I get the impression you think God
could not do what he did in bringing forth the BoM. This takes
faith. You need to begin by allowing yourself to believe it was
possible--a small belief, as in a mustard seed. Your faith will grow as
you are more able to see the BoM in a poitive llight.
I have a question Judy-- The BoM claims to be
more of the word of God, yet most peole are incurious about such a book.
They have been so inculcated with the belief that the Bible is all that God is
willing to do for us, that they just automatically turn the BoM off.
Surely you have more faith in God than to believe he could not have brought
forth more of his word.
> Blaine:
> Our confidence will wax strong in the presence of God, but you will go
> away with your heads hanging down, unless you repent of your arrogance
> and pride.
>
> Judy:
> Paul told the Bereans they were more honorable than those in Thessalonica
> because they checked his teaching against the scriptures.. Why is it
> price
> and arrogance to do the same today? It was God's wisdom then and
> God does not change. Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
> Our confidence will wax strong in the presence of God, but you will go
> away with your heads hanging down, unless you repent of your arrogance
> and pride.
>
> Judy:
> Paul told the Bereans they were more honorable than those in Thessalonica
> because they checked his teaching against the scriptures.. Why is it
> price
> and arrogance to do the same today? It was God's wisdom then and
> God does not change. Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
**Blaine: I apologize for using the words
"Pride and arrogance," I sometimes get a little arrogant
myself, since I am so positive my faith in the BoM is solidly founded
on the Rock of Christ. You are correct, you definitely should check
the teachings of the BoM against the scriptures of the Bible, both Old and New
Testaments. (:>)
>
> Blaine:
> BTW, there are already several newer books written by BYU people regards
> the locations in the BoM--very interesting stuff. But considering you
> are so anxious to make anything favorable to Mormonism appear wrong, or
> evil, I have fears you will not read them, or if you do read them, you
> would just fault them. Your quotes below are all back in the 60's and
> 70's-- any new stuff? I do have some things written more recently--all
> one has to do is vistit Deseret Book Store. Thye shalves get fuller and
> fuller.
>
> Judy:
> Of the writing of many books there is no end but the writer of
> Ecclesiastes tells us it is "weariness to the flesh" - I spend most of
> my
> time focusing on THE BOOK.
> Blaine:
> BTW, there are already several newer books written by BYU people regards
> the locations in the BoM--very interesting stuff. But considering you
> are so anxious to make anything favorable to Mormonism appear wrong, or
> evil, I have fears you will not read them, or if you do read them, you
> would just fault them. Your quotes below are all back in the 60's and
> 70's-- any new stuff? I do have some things written more recently--all
> one has to do is vistit Deseret Book Store. Thye shalves get fuller and
> fuller.
>
> Judy:
> Of the writing of many books there is no end but the writer of
> Ecclesiastes tells us it is "weariness to the flesh" - I spend most of
> my
> time focusing on THE BOOK.
> Grace and Peace,
> Judy
> Judy
**Blaine: Actually, I have studied the Bible
as much if not more than the BoM, so I can't fault you for staying with it,
especially since you were brought up with it exclusively. But stop and put
yourself in the shoes of someone who was raised studying other scriptures not
found in the Bible, as with myself. My perspective is different from yours
only insofar as I have the advantage of a comparison. When I compare the
two books, I find that the BoM answers questions not made clear in the Bible,
yet does not contradict the Bible. The claim that bringing forth new
scripture is violating a biblical injunction against doing so is nonsense.
There are no injunctions against new scripture anywhere in the Bible--only
injunctions about changing existing
ones. But this would be true for any scripture--once written, it should
not be changed.
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