Re: [TruthTalk] suffering ego

[Blaine Borrowman]

Blaine:  The last time I looked on the Ancestral File, all of Brigham's wives were of child-bearing age when he married them, and none were less than 16 yrs old, which is the  legal age of consent in Utah,  and in most if not all other states.  Most of the women were in their late 20's.  A few were older than 40.  The Ancestral File is open to public scrutiny at www.familysearch.org   ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] suffering ego What is the RELIGIOUS significance of OLD MEN with young GIRLS? He was an LDS APOSTLE. Why do all the LDS Polygamists (Joe, Brigham etc.) like their GIRLS younger & younger as the MEN get older? They were Child ABUSERS. Blaine Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Blaine"  I was wondering about that marriage to a 16 yr old, and I said, "Why, he ought to be hung!!  Someone standing nearbye overheard me say that, and replied, "Oh, he  must be for sure!"  LOL ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] suffering ego Not mad just think you should stop playing both sides.   Polygamy is an excuse for Abuse of women What is the religious significance of old men marrying young girls? At the age of 57 Orson Pratt was fixing to marry a 16 year old, who became his 10th wife on 28 December 1868. http://historytogo.utah.gov/hmmarrydiff.html Apostle Wilford Woodruff complained "there is hardly a girl 14 years old in Utah but what is married, or just going to be." JH 1 April 1857               Plural marriage in early Utah, included "the grossest of incest�the intermarriage of near relations." Cook Face to Face with Mormonism p 10-11 BLESSINGS OF POLYGAMY Cannon wrote Of his wife, "she considered herself in disgrace every day that she lived with me in polygamy, and she would as soon be a prostitute as a plural wife."  Abraham H. Cannon Diaries, 12:215-16, 8 July 1890 Heber J Grant was convicted in 1899 this is the historical fact. In addition he fled the US to avoid another conviction in 1903 A number of general Authorities were convicted of UNLAWFUL COHABITATION AFTER the manifesto.   It was unlawful to have more than one wife so "UNLAWFUL COHABITATION" as they say today "living together" the biblical term is ADULTERY & FORNICATION   President Joseph F Smith had 5 wives that bore him ELEVEN children after 1890! (Testimony Reed Smoot) Brigham H Roberts First Council of Seventy, Served four months in prison for UNLAWFUL COHABITATION, 1889   SL Trib article 2001 http://www.polygamyinfo.com/plygmedia%2001%20111trib.htm It turned out that proving polygamous marriage back then was almost impossible. Rather than enforce the Morrill Act, which made bigamy punishable by a $500 fine and up to 5 years in prison, federal prosecutors used a Utah law banning "lewd and lascivious cohabitation." This statute carried a sentence of 6 months and was the punishment handed out to most pioneer polygamists. Apostle Lorenzo Snow served 11 months. Rudger Clawson, later an apostle, was sentenced to 4 years for multiple offenses. These 2 church leaders turned down a FULL pardon. They must have enjoyed the sin too much. http://www.polygamyinfo.com/Harrision-proclaimation.htm Now, therefore, I Benjamin Harrison, President of the United States, by virtue of the powers vested, do hereby declare and grant a full amnesty and pardon to all persons liable to the penalties of said act by reason of unlawful cohabitation under the color of polygamous or plural marriage who have since November 1, 1890, abstained from such unlawful cohabitation, but upon the express condition that they shall in the future faithfully obey the laws of the United States herein before named, and not otherwise. Those who shall fail to avail themselves of the clemency hereby offered will be vigorously prosecuted. Blaine Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Blaine:  Are you mad about that?  You sound like you were planning to get yourself  some extra women, like that red-headed Dude who got sent to the Point of the Mountain  (State Pen) awhile back, and are therefore defending the principle of plural marriage.  ????  ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] suffering ego It does NOT NULLIFY the PRINCIPLE Blaine Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Blaine: The Manifesto is complete, having the revelation to rescind polygamy, and is in the back of the Doctrine and Covenants of the LDS Church. It is too long to quote, so please just look it up. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] suffering ego > >From: "Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > God commanded polygamy to be started, for good reasons-- but later > >rescinded it for good reasons. > > Please quote the LDS work that indicates that God rescinded polygamy. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Check out the coupons and bargains on MSN Offers! > http://shopping.msn.com/softcontent/softcontent.aspx?scmId=1418 > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. 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