From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] new revelation Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 06:30:18 -0500
From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Is this a new revelation or old hat? I am very interested to know the answer to this. Did you GENTILE TTers know you were considered "ridiculous" before or did you just find this out?
Judy: Kevin you need to learn the difference between the ad homenim and someone's opinion. This nephew is calling the Baptist pastor's belief 'ridiculous' not the man himself. You do the exact same thing to DaveH and Blaine all the time. You must spend a lot of time studying the Mormon material that you post on TT to show how contradictory and ridiculous it is to you.
So tell me - what's the difference?? Makes no difference to me that the Mormons call me a Gentile. According to God's Word I am a Gentile, washed in the blood of the lamb...& whose name is written in the Lambs Book of Life.
Judy
Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Read the post, you just missed it, no big deal on this. I hope you do not miss it when it really matters!
DAVEH: Note to some of the old TTers........Jeff has been gone from TT some 20 ! months now, but he still refers to TT in some of his posts to his Mom (who transcribes them for email distribution). Here is an excerpt from his latest letter home that I thought some of you might find interesting........ I have tracted through the area a couple times since I got here. And it is tough. A lot of apathy. Everybody is Catholic or Baptist. We tracted into a Baptist preacher last week. He liked us, but of course we are a cult. Well anyway he invited us to this Bible study. We watched him preach, then went into the (illegible word), and he tried to bash with us. I have come to new conclusions. The things he was saying were more ridiculous than ANYTHING I ever heard on Truth Talk. I am so grateful that we are not being led by the blind.
Blaine Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of My Nephew Jeff
I am very interested to know the answer to this. Did you GENTILE TTers know you were considered "ridiculous" before or did you just find this out?
Blaine: Who called anyone rediculous, Kevin? Did you imagine this? Are you going paranoid psycho on us? Maybe I missed something--DaveH and I are the only two Mormons I know of, and I know neither of us has said anything about anyone being rediculous.
LDS Modus Operandi: Pretend to be loving and sincere, but when among your own, Mock and Sneer. Image is everything.
School spokesman Duff Tittle told the Salt Lake Tribune the photo had been altered because tattoos (along with smoking, drinking and premarital sex) violate the Mormon school's rules. "We have touched up photos for years -- as far as removing tattoos, covering up bellybuttons, just things like that," Tittle says. http://www.sltrib.com/2004/Jan/01142004/utah/128942.asp
Blaine: Mr. Tittle offers a perfectly good reason for covering up the tatoos and etc. He says, "it's easier to doctor photos than deal with irate callers demanding to know why athletes are being immodest or wearing tattoos that many Latter-day Saints deem offensive or a violation of church standards." Having been a teacher, I know if a standard is set for a certain behavior, and a popular person models the breaking of the standard, others are more likely to follow. In Psychology, it is called "imitative learning," sometimes referred to as "social learning,"and is a major source of learned behaviors in students of all ages. Summed up, it says, "Monkey see, monkey do." Generally, the more popular the person, the more likely others will follow his/her lead. Athletes, of course, are popular almost by default.
Mayor outlines program to repair the rift among Mormons and others living in Salt Lake http://www.sltrib.com/2004/Jan/01142004/utah/128949.asp
Groupthink is the excuse http://newsnet.byu.edu/story.cfm/47372 "This is what happens when you leave the church" and "You're a traitor to your religion." http://newsnet.byu.edu/story.cfm/47356 http://newsnet.byu.edu/story.cfm/47264
Devotional addresses the disturbing comments and reactions http://newsnet.byu.edu/story.cfm/47296
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dave: I find it interesting that your nephew is stuck on the same question as you and what does the expression "tracted into" mean?
The apathy does not surprise me; nor does the confusion concerning "truth" because there is massive Bible illiteracy out there even among those in leadership positions in nominal Churches. Have you seen any Barna polls on this?
How is your nephew so certain he is not being led by the blind? Has he been born again by the Spirit of God and is he a follower of the resurrected Christ? One who walks after the Spirit daily or is he just another follower of Joseph Smith and his BofM?
How sad and what a shame that Christians are so lethargic.
Grace and Peace, Judy
From: Dave DAVEH: Note to some of the old TTers........Jeff has been gone from TT some 20 ! months now, but he still refers to TT in some of his posts to his Mom (who transcribes them for email distribution). Here is an excerpt from his latest letter home that I thought some of you might find interesting........
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I have tracted through the area a couple times since I got here. And it is tough. A lot of apathy. Everybody is Catholic or Baptist. We tracted into a Baptist preacher last week. He liked us, but of course we are a cult. Well anyway he invited us to this Bible study. We watched him preach, then went into the (illegible word), and he tried to bash with us. I have come to new conclusions. The things he was saying were more than ANYTHING I ever heard on Truth Talk. I am so grateful that we are not being led by the blind. This is one thing he said.
I asked him, "Why would God create somebody to send them to Hell? Did he know that?
Him: Of course. God is Holy, He is ! just. He knows everything. That person was CREATED to give Him glory by going to Hell.
me: How's that???
Him: By proving that God is just. . .
Send that to Dave. . . See what he thinks. Well I am out of room. I gotta go. love, Jeff +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org
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