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Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] deceived

Thanks Judy.
Terry
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Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 9:39 AM
Subject: [TruthTalk] deceived

From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Let me throw y'all something to ponder. 
I'm tired of scratching my head alone.  Consider this:
Satan is described as a deceiver.  We are warned that he will,
if possible, deceive us.  I think that all of us will agree that this
is true.  The Bible not only says so; we ourselves have all seen
deceived people.  Sometimes, they are real easy to spot. 
We are not surprised at this.  Satan has been around longer
than the human race.  He is the father of lies. He has experience.  
He is good at what he does. 
 
My question is, since this is a common occurance, how do you
know that you are not the one being deceived?  Satan doesn't
just work on the stupid and the uneducated, and he doesn't say,
"Now I am going to deceive you".  In fact, the way he operates,
the one being deceived never realizes that he or she is deceived. 
It is always someone else.  If you knew you were deceived, you
would not be deceived.  So how do you know that you aren't?
Terry
 
Judy:
Very good question Terry; I've been wondering how to approach
the subject of demon oppressed/led believers and you are making it
easier.  
 
As we see in the life of Abraham (the father of faith) the fruit of faith
is obedience to the will of God. We should recognize the voice of the
Chief Shepherd and obey Him. 
 
Eve was deceived because she listened to the wrong voice and acted
upon the wrong message. At one point during his ministry to the
Church at Corinth the apostle Paul tells them he is afraid for them
"lest somehow as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so
their minds might be corrupted from the simplicity that is in
Christ" (2 Corinthians 11:3) 
 
Paul goes on to speak of one who comes with another Jesus,
a different spirit, and a different gospel - a scenario which we are all
familiar with on TT. Over the 2,000+ years since Calvary the adversary
has produced more than 400 different Protestant gospels and this
is not including the quasi-Christian cults and the RCC. 
 
I know from personal experience that it is possible for a born again
believer to be deceived because I've been there and today I guard
against the spirit of error by continuing to study to show myself
approved to God and to the best of my ability walking in all the light
He has given me. 
 
We must know God and His ways so that when the other voice
speaks to us or any idea that exalts itself above the clear teaching of
God's Word presents itself we are quick to take it captive and cast it
down to the obedience of Christ. (2 Cor 10:5).
 
Grace and Peace,
Judy
 
Blaine:  But Judy, if what presents itself as the "clear teaching of God's word" is really so clear, how come your stats--400 different Protestant gospels--suggest otherwise?    I do not doubt they seem clear to you, and they do to me too,  but they apparently also seem clear to those who draw different conclusions from you or I--and even you and I do not always agree.  There are not only the Protestants who cannot agree, but we have a growing number of Messianics who disagree with what is fundamentally agreed upon by most Protestants-- that the feasts of the Law of Moses no longer need to be kept, the Sabbath should be observed on Sunday, not Saturday, etc.   All this from the same "clear teaching of God's word."   Read the following, and tell we that this does not describe our day:
 
Isaiah 29:9-10   Stay yourselves, and wonder, cry ye out, and cry:  they are drunken, but not with wine.  They stagger, but not with strong drink.  For the Lord hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes;  the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered.
 
Isaiah 29:13  Wherefore the Lord said, forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth,  and with their lips do honor me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men.
 

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