From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] [TruthTalk Digest] Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 23:32:28 -0800
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
> >Blain wrote::
> >.......Does that answer your question, Laura? Now let me ask you a
> >couple.......IF Adam had not transgressed, he would have been immortal.
> >I assume you agree with that? Then, do you believe immortal men and
> >women can have children? Now let me take it a step further......suppose
> >Eve had partaken of the FF and had fallen, but Adam had not transgressed
> >and remained immortal. Do you think Adam (being in a higher state of
> >immortality) could have had children with Eve (in a lower state of
> >mortality)?
>
> If I may interject, neither Adam nor Eve were physically immortal to start
> with.
DAVEH: ??? Really? Is that commonly believed by most Protestants, Perry?
cpl: I do not speak for protestants in general, but I know Christians besides myself who also believe it to be so.
> The death that God was talking about was spiritual death!
DAVEH: When God said to Adam thou shalt surely die if he partook of the FF, you believe he was not speaking about physical death? I just want to make sure I am understanding you on this, Perry.
cpl: Correct. He was speaking about spiritual death. After all, A&E did not die physically when they ate it, they died spiritually. Their making figleaf aprons was an effort to cover up their own sin. Sort of like the LDS' aprons. :-)
So......if A&E had partaken of the fruit of the tree of life instead of the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil......then would they have lived on into mortality?
cpl: That is what the Bible says...partaking of the tree of life would have caused them to live forever.
May I assume you believe the tree of life's benefit is directed to physical life as contrasted to spiritual life?
cpl: That is correct. I separate the two. Tree of life would have brought immortality, tree of knowledge of good and evil brought spiritual death.
> Recall that
> they were bannished from the garden so they would not partake of the tree of
> life and, thus, live forever in a fallen and unredeemable state. Kicking
> them out of the garden was an act of mercy, to remove them from the presence
> of the tree of life, thus allowing them to be remain redeemable.
>
> Gen 3:22b-24 ...and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the
> tree of life, and eat, and live for ever; 23 Therefore the LORD God sent him
> forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
> 24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden
> Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of
> the tree of life.
>
> Perry
-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain Five email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF and MOTORCYCLE.
_________________________________________________________________
Create your own personal Web page with the info you use most, at My MSN. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200364ave/direct/01/
---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org
If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
