From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Perry wrote: > If I may interject, neither Adam nor Eve were physically > immortal to start with.
DavidM: I'm VERY surprised to hear this response. Why do you believe that they were created as mortal beings who would die? Judy: I'm not Perry (hope you don't mind Perry), I would say they were potentially mortal depending upon from which tree it was that they ate. Perry wrote: > The death that God was talking about was spiritual death! Does not spiritual life result in physical life, and spiritual death result in physical death? Judy: Yes and there were two trees in the garden, one produced life and the other death. DavidM: The literal reading of Genesis 2:17 is as follows: Green's Literal Translation: but of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil you may not eat, for in the day that you eat of it, dying you shall die. (Genesis 2:17 LITV) Young's Literal Translation: and of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, thou dost not eat of it, for in the day of thine eating of it--dying thou dost die.' (Genesis 2:17 YLT) The "dying thou dost die" phrase is called among the Rabbi's a doubled death. They interpret it to refer to both spiritual and physical death. This makes a lot of sense to me. Perry wrote: > Recall that they were bannished from the garden so > they would not partake of the tree of life and, thus, > live forever in a fallen and unredeemable state. Kicking > them out of the garden was an act of mercy, to remove > them from the presence of the tree of life, thus allowing > them to be remain redeemable. DavidM: I don't understand. Why would living forever make them unredeemable? Judy: Because they would be living eternally in that present fallen state with no other option. DavidM: It seems to me that the problem of them living forever is not that they would be unredeemable, but rather that their progeny being born in a sinful state would have problems created by the longevity of their ancestors. This is perhaps partly why the lifespan of man was continually shortened as the iniquity of men increased. Modern man's lifespan is one-tenth of those who lived in Adam's generation. Judy: Because of sin and the curses that accompany it. One good plague can wipe out a lot of people before their time. Judy ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
