From: "Blaine Borrowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Blaine writes:
I believe in your heart you have fellowshipped with Jesus Christ.
I believe, however, that all things not entered into by Jesus Christ's
properly acknowledged authority--the priesthood as revealed to
Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery--will be of no effect in the world
to come, in and after the resurrection. Marriages, baptsims, or any
other ordinances, not sanctioned by this authority will be null and
void in the world to come. Read section 132: 4-7 D&C:
Judy:
Blaine the above is lies and deception.
I believe in your heart you have fellowshipped with Jesus Christ.
I believe, however, that all things not entered into by Jesus Christ's
properly acknowledged authority--the priesthood as revealed to
Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery--will be of no effect in the world
to come, in and after the resurrection. Marriages, baptsims, or any
other ordinances, not sanctioned by this authority will be null and
void in the world to come. Read section 132: 4-7 D&C:
Judy:
Blaine the above is lies and deception.
Blaine:
Stating it is such does not in any
way show it is. One must have
the spirit of the Holy Ghost with
him/her to know if this is true or not.
Judy:
If I were to write three pages
showing it is you would not receive it
because you are convinced, you have
bought the lie.
Blaine:
But even if it was a lie, you have to
admit it was a grand lie--too
good for any man to do,
Judy:
Men lie all the time and deceive
people with their lies look at
Mohammad, Sun Yung Moon, Hitler, Mao,
Stalin, Lenin, Darwin,
I could go on and on. In fact the
whole world is under the spell of
the evil one so ppl following the lie
are the majority.
Blaine:
and definitely supported by too many
scriptures and prophesies
to be a work of the devil.
Judy:
Now this is where I've got ya. The
book of Mormon is not supported
by scriptures or Biblical prophecy at
all. There is no race of ppl
called Nephites and Jesus did not
ever come to Missouri in the
flesh.
Blaine:
Remember, Jesus was also accused many
times over of being a
worker of the devil, and a
liar. As he said, why would the devil
work against himself--in this case,
by fulfilling Biblical prophecies?
Judy:
He said a house divided could not
stand and if you are going to
use Jesus words then you need to
honor ALL of them in balance
and in context rather than just
taking out the ones that support
controversial questions and spurious
doctrines.
Blaine:
For behold, I reveal unto you a new and an everlasting covenant;
and if ye abide not that covenant, then are ye damned; for no one
can reject this covenant and be permitted to enter into my glory.
Judy:
The Covenant was in place years before Joseph and Oliver were
born and died. God's Word is eternal and God is not a man that
he should lie.
Blaine:
As it says, this was NEW covenant--it
then gives the conditions
for this covenant, that you do all
things in the order prescribed.
Judy:
If this were a VALID NEW covenant it
would have been spoken
of by the prophets of old. The
new covenant that stands was
described in Jeremiah and in Ezekiel
before it was written of
in the book of Hebrews. To be
valid it must have two or more
witnesses in the
Bible.
Blaine:
5 For all who will have a blessing at my hands shall abide the
law which was appointed for that blessing, and the conditions
thereof, as were instituted from before the foundation of the world.
6 And as pertaining to the new and everlasting covenant, it was
instituted for the fulness of my glory; and he that receiveth a
fulness thereof must and shall abide the law, or he shall be
damned, saith the Lord God.
Judy:
The faith once delivered to the saints says "Knowing that a man
is NOT justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus
Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be
justified by the faith of Christ and not by the works of the law,
for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified" (Gal 2:16)
Blaine:
This is not talking about the
law--which means the law of Moses.
This is something else, associated
with the law given to Joseph Smith
to be adhered to in these last
days.
Judy:
It is still phoney baloney Blaine
because Jesus did not come to
re institute any law other than
the promise of the law being written
on their hearts when they come to Him by faith. The first Adam
was
a living soul, the second Adam is a
life-giving spirit. The gospel
is spiritual Blaine and the fruit in
a persons life is spiritual. Even
though wives and children can be a
blessing they are not the fruit
of the gospel or the fruit of
a spiritual life.
Blaine:
It is a law given in the end of
times, to a prophet raised up for these
specific times. Nothing in the
Bible says God cannot do this. He is
incharge, and is, after all,
God. It is not our duty to find flaws and
loopholes in his law. This has
been done, or attempted at least,
in all times and dispensations of the
gospel.
Judy:
There is just one Prophet, Priest,
and King and his name is not
Joseph Smith. We have God's Word and
the book is sealed. There
is ONLY ONE DOOR and ppl who try to
show a different way to
heaven are thieves and robbers.
Blaine:
7 And verily I say unto you, that the conditions of
this law are
these: All covenants, contracts, bonds, obligations, oaths,
vows, performances, connections, associations, or expectations,
that are not made and entered into and sealed by the Holy Spirit
of promise, of him who is anointed, both as well for time and for
all eternity, and that too most holy, by revelation and
commandment through the medium of mine anointed, whom I
have appointed on the earth to hold this power (and I have
appointed unto my servant Joseph to hold this power in the
last days, and there is never but one on the earth at a time on
whom this power and the keys of this priesthood are conferred),
are of no efficacy, virtue, or force in and after the resurrection from
the dead; for all contracts that are not made unto this end have
an end when men are dead.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 132:4 - 7)
Judy:
The above is "another gospel"
And the faith once delivered to the saints says:"there are some
who would trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach ANY OTHER
gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you,
LET HIM BE ACCURSED. As we have said before, so say I now
again. If any man prech any other gospel unto you than that ye
have received, LET HIM BE ACCURSED." (Gal 1:7-9)
these: All covenants, contracts, bonds, obligations, oaths,
vows, performances, connections, associations, or expectations,
that are not made and entered into and sealed by the Holy Spirit
of promise, of him who is anointed, both as well for time and for
all eternity, and that too most holy, by revelation and
commandment through the medium of mine anointed, whom I
have appointed on the earth to hold this power (and I have
appointed unto my servant Joseph to hold this power in the
last days, and there is never but one on the earth at a time on
whom this power and the keys of this priesthood are conferred),
are of no efficacy, virtue, or force in and after the resurrection from
the dead; for all contracts that are not made unto this end have
an end when men are dead.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 132:4 - 7)
Judy:
The above is "another gospel"
And the faith once delivered to the saints says:"there are some
who would trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach ANY OTHER
gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you,
LET HIM BE ACCURSED. As we have said before, so say I now
again. If any man prech any other gospel unto you than that ye
have received, LET HIM BE ACCURSED." (Gal 1:7-9)
Blaine:
Joseph Smith is honored by over 11
million people today
as their Prophet and revelator.
I would not call that being accursed.
Judy:
Wait and see if these 11 million ppl
make it Blaine, and if we are
going by numbers then there are many
more ppl who are blindly
following Mohammad who also listened
to a different gospel given
by an angel of
light.
Blaine:
He is thought of as giving us that
portion of the word of God needed
for these last days, as the
forerunner of Jesus Christ's second
appearance.
Judy:
There is no forerunner needed for
these last days other than the
Holy Spirit who was
promised and He (the Comforter) it is who is
to
lead us into ALL TRUTH.
Blaine:
Of course, since the work involved is
far more extensive than it
was in the days of John the Baptist,
a mighty missionary force is
called to be fishers and hunters of
the House of Israel, as promised
and prophesied (Jeremiah
16:15-16)
Judy:
Here is more twisting of the
truth. Jeremiah is not referring to Mormons
He is prophesying about Israel
returning to the land. This has nothing
to do with gentiles and contrary to
what you've been taught you and
DaveH are also gentiles living in the
spacious building.
Blaine: .
We presently have over 40,000
misionaries proselyting in the field.
If God is going to curse this work,
he shows no signs of it so far.
The work has prospered despite heavy
opposition from the start.
I will send you some better photos of
the Ghana, Africa, Temple,
as I said I would, plus some of the
missionary force at work on
that continent. Meanwhile,
consider this:
Judy:
Without Truth it matters not how many
people are out there and
anyway there will be a great apostasy
or "falling away" from the faith
before the second advent. Why
get so excited about these temples?
God does not live in buildings made
by men's hands.
.
Blaine:
"I saw another angel fly in the
midst of heaven, having the
everlasting gospel to preach to them
that dwell on the earth, and to
every nation, and kindred, and tongue
and people, saying with a
loud voice, fear God, and give glory
to him, for the hour of his
judgement is come> Rev 14:
6-7 ....
Judy:
Yes, I'm familiar with these verses
Blaine:
This is in essence a contradiction
of what you are saying, since it
speaks
of another
angel having an "everlasting
gospel, to be preached
before the end.
Judy:
I don't see how it is a contradiction
of anything I've said. All through the
book of Revelation there are angels
bringing different judgments upon
the world but this particular angel
has a different message but it is
not a different gospel. It is the
same as always which is "Fear God and
give Him glory" the only thing added
is "for the hour of his judgment has
come" Now noone living right
now can say this because only the Father
knows when that hour will come.
Blaine:
Why is this, if the full gospel is already being preached by
Protestant
missionaries, few of whom teach a consistent meassage, that
another angel
must deliver this gospel?
Judy:
As I've said already this is not a
"different" gospel and nothing had been
changed. Fear God and give Him
glory is the theme from Genesis to
Revelation.
Blaine:
It was necessary for a new source of
the gospel a restoration, rather
than a reformation, to be delivered
by God, since the old one had been
changed..
Judy:
Blaine you need to get a grip.
Nothing has changed from everlasting to
everlasting and the sooner you figure
that out the better for you.
Blaine:
Why do you
think we have the statue of this angel atop every temple
built
recently?
Judy:
I figured
it was Moroni who gave Joseph Smith his different
gospel.
Blaine:
The statue
represents our Moroni, and missionary labors to disperse
the gospel
as revealed to Joseph Smith by the angel
Moroni.
The Book of
Mormon, along with other scriptures having a revealed
source,
is that "everlasting gospel." Moroni was the angel who
delivered
it.
Judy:
It is a
different gospel from an angel of light which has nothing to
do
with the
"everlasting gospel" mentioned in the book of Revelation.
