Re: [TruthTalk] What advantage is there to Mormonism? None

Sat, 21 Feb 2004 17:19:57 -0800

TOLERANCE OF EVIL IS DUPLICITY & TREASON TO GOD
I will Fight your False religion with all my might
I hate that which sends millions to a Hell designed for the devil & his angels.
Call it what you will I will never back off, I will REMAIN INTOLERANT to FALSE Religion
 
 BLAINE None of us like this religious intolerance we all get into.   Maybe we need to lengthen our stride a little and put it behind us. 
 
President Spencer W. Kimball became identified with the challenge to
members to �lengthen your stride�.

Blaine Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Blaine:  What's to understand?  All you did was bash Mormonism.  If you have a story to tell, or a philosophy to teach, then do that, and I will undoubtedly be interested.  I was intensely interested in the Baptist religion, as Kevin and others got into the discussion.  Kevin does a lot of bashing too, so you shouldn't feel lonely here on TT.   Even I get into sometimes.   But knocking another's religious views just comes across as relgious intolerance, which even another religiously intolerant person despises.  Right?   None of us like this religious intolerance we all get into.   Maybe we need to lengthen our stride a little and put it behind us.  ----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What advantage is there to Mormonism? None

To Blaine:
As you have pointed out below, I wasted my time trying to convince you of the truth.  Since you cannot understand, it would be pointless to continue.  I am truly sorry. 
Terry
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What advantage is there to Mormonism? None

To Judy:
You have laid out a flawless arguement  (overstatement for effect, right?  :>))
 
that would prompt any reasonable person to at least search the scriptures  (to me, an unreasonable conclusion)
 
 but it has fallen on deaf ears.  (Not necessarily so, as I try to give serious consideration to all that I take time to read--otherwise, I would not read it.  (:>)
 
All that you have accomplished is to pour fuel on the fire 
 
 that is waiting for Blaine when the Lord condemns him to Hell  (Moral judgement, unjustified by any facts that might support the judgement. You ascribe your own opinion to the Lord, here, which may or may not be true.  I disagree that it is true.)
 
 If you are now ready to stamp the dust off your feet ( Congratulations!  This is a nice allusion to an obscure scripture involving a ritual reserved for special witnesses of Christ-- mostly Apostles. I am surprised you were aware of it.  Is Judy a special witness?) and move on, I would like to hear what you have learned about demon possession  ( does this mean you are into demon possession yourself? (:>)  Your statement leads me to believe you understand it pretty well, have you ever experienced it either first hand, or even seen it second hand?  This is usually considered to be an occult  subject.  I am not convinced by your brief mentioning of it that you know a lot about it.  It is a good term for casting aspersions, however.  I'll have to remember it for future use.  LOL)
 
To Blaine:
Way back in A.D. 49 there was a guy named Paul who started a church in Galatia.  He then went on to start other churches in other areas. While he was gone, a group of judaizers (?? explain term, please--never heard this word--is it used in the scripture?  Would you mind giving me a reference?  I may have read the term but not noticed it?)  came, teaching the Galations (Galatians) that Jesus alone was not enough; they also needed to be circumcized. 
Paul's response, when he heard this, was "If you get circumcized to be saved, then Christ would be of no benefit to you".  In other words, adding something to Jesus does not make you more saved  ( seems true as far as it goes).  It makes you lost. (I am not sure I agree, but go ahead)  It is not Jesus plus anything. (This might be true, as far as your understanding of Jesus goes, which seems to me to be quite limited by your adherance to your traditions, many of which I seriously question.) 
 
Not Jesus plus the law  (Mormons believe the law of Moses was fulfilled in Jesus Christ--you seem to be assuming incorrectly we believe otherwise?  Not clear here what or whom you are referring to), not Jesus plus a foreskin, not Jesus plus tithing (A latter-day commandment given when the Latter-day Saints proved unable to live the greater law of having all things in common as did the early Saints--it shows the kindness and mercy of God that enables us to live a lesser law after having failed to live a greater law.), or baptism (Are you saying you do not believe this ordinance is needed?  "Except ye be born of water and the Holy Ghost, ye can in nowise enter the Kingdom of God,"  Also see Romans 6-10)  or Joe Smith  (Only his enemies called him "Joe," mainly as a means of detracting from his true dignity as a child of God  See Romans 8:16-17)
By adding to Jesus, you have condemned yourself to Hell.   (An unsupported moral judgement  AND a putdown!!)
 
 
Wake up man!  (Another put down!)
Terry
 
Blaine: To Terry-- I went through your material thoroughly, not to insult you, but to indicate the true responses your comments are engendering in me.  In other words, I often know what to think, I don't always know what to say, when some individuals discuss me as if I don't count.  I hate to say this, but your comments seem more motivated from religious intolerance than from a true desire to correct and prevent me from going to hell--which place I am not sure even exists, although I do believe in a condition of Hell, a burning of the conscience,  engendered by a bright recollection of all my unrepented of sins.  I would fear this more than any literal flames, which I consider an old secterian notion.   In my opinion, all references to literal flames in the scriptures are to be taken metaphorically, not literally. 

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