From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Judy wrote: I say Jesus did not have the same fallen nature 
 as the rest of us because this is the teaching of scripture. 

dm: I beg to differ with you here.  The Scriptures teach that he had the
same flesh as the rest of us, being born of the seed of David and the
seed of Abraham.  

jt: He came in the "likeness" of man and when he returns hopefully 
he will find us in "his likeness or image" This does not say that he
is us or that we are him.

dm I've already posted all the Scriptures for you, but you just 
ignore them 

jt: I didn't ignore them, I read them but believe you are reading
into the text something that is not there.

dm: just like you ignore the simple calendar posts that lets us 
know that there was a full moon when the Lord was in the garden.

jt: If it's so simple why do you not explain it in a simple way?
My Bible says that Passover was 13th thru 14th of Nisan and 
Bible notes say that Nisan could be March or April. So which of
those two months was it in 33AD?  In 2004 my calender says
full moon is 5th March and 6th April. Since Nisan is either of
these months there will not be a full moon on 13th thru 14th
of Nisan this year or am I missing something?

Judy wrote:
> He came forth from God (by his own testimony) and 
> was holy from the time of his birth.  Why is it so 
> difficult to believe that God is able to create a 
> holy child in the womb of Mary? this in no way 
> detracts from the fact that he was born of the 
> woman.

dm: I believe that Jesus was holy.  Why is it so hard for you 
to believe that Jesus could be related to Adam like the rest of 
us and yet be holy?

jt:
Because he would not have been born holy, he would have
been part of the fallen human race and ineligible to be the
perfect sacrifice. His blood would have the taint of sin.

dm: This in no way detracts from the fact that he was 
the son of God.

jt: You may not see it but yes it does because if he was born
with a carnal nature like ours he would have needed someone
to sacrifice for him - as Job (a righteous man) said "who can 
bring a clean thing out of an unclean? not one. (Job 14:4).

judyt
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