John writes > Sorry judyt for cutting in BUT  is Bill saying that after the Nicene Fathers, there is no possibility for similar but "original" thinking on the same subject? 
 
No, I am not saying that. Read again, deliberately this time, the whole Trinitarian conversation from the time I got involved in it and maybe what I did say will begin to register.  
 
Every time I use the word"person" the Nicene Fathers get the credit? !       I think it is possible that they and she arrived at the same conclusion because they have the same God or the same experience with God.  
 
The same conclusion, maybe; the same experience, perhaps; the same God, I hope so; but if Judy's epiphany includes the same word, then I'm with Kevin, I want to see the plates. [:>) 
 
Just a thought.   That is not to say that their (the Nicene fathers) knowledge and use of the word did not have a trickle down effect.   That is possible.  But that possibility does not negate what I just said, however.  
 
Yes it does, John, until Judy invents, coins, creates, fabricates, articulates, a new word to express the same intentionality. Because when she uses the word "person" to speak about Jesus Christ and the Trinitarian participants, she is using the word that she inherited from the Nicene fathers. They are the ones who created it, who coined it, who invented it, who fabricated it, who took something which had no locution and mouthed an utterance to express it. Moreover, I don't give a hoot if you or she gives them credit for it or not. That's not the point. Just don't be so silly as to criticize others for using the Trinity word while uttering words yourselves like "person" and "personhood" and "personality" to speak of the very same Divine participation.
 
Bill
 
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In a message dated 3/10/2004 1:02:53 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


the Nicene fathers. Get it? They are the ones who invented the word "person" to express what their language could not otherwise say about the Godhead and Jesus Christ.





John

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