RE: [TruthTalk] All truth leads to Jesus.

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Bill, I’m sorry to hear that you are withdrawing—just when you had drawn me back into TT.  I withdrew a few months ago for the same reason—tired of putting up with people who are more interested in being Contentious than kindly exploring issues of Truth in the community of Christ.  I hope you’ll stay.  Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wm. Taylor Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 7:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] All truth leads to Jesus.   Judy, Kevin, and anyone else you may be awake at this hour:   There is much to which I could respond. This post raises a couple of important distinction type questions. Some of Judy's earlier posts raise questions, and Kevin has left a couple on the table. I think, rather than addressing them, any of them, I am going to forego any more discussion at this time. Right now it is all too clear to me where the problems lie. It is probably not good that I be so confident: perhaps part of the problem is my own. I should take some time to reflect upon that possibility. It may do others well to do some soul searching also. I think, however, that this conclusion is accurate and apt: we are talking past each other; we're not hearing each other's voices; in other words, we are not communicating. And so, as for me, I will withdraw for a while and reevaluate my potential contribution to this forum.   May God richly bless you all,     Bill Taylor  ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy Taylor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 5:37 AM Subject: [TruthTalk] All truth leads to Jesus.   Do you mean me Kevin? I believe God chooses to save ppl by the foolishness of preaching and that what is preached is important. Sin, righteousness, and the judgment to come should be explained along with the death, burial and resurrection of Christ and how his blood cleanses our conscience from dead works so that we may serve the living God.  I was raised in a denomination with a social gospel which was death to me. I was taught to see Jesus as a historical figure (like the Nicene fathers) - It was by the grace and mercy of God along with some faithful believers that I finally learned the truth.  My extended family are still in the mire .... so I don't take for granted that church attendance automatically means believer.... and the saying "all truth is God's truth" is fallacious.   judyt "Man in his pomp is like the beasts that perish"   From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Could you explain what you mean by Gospel here? From: "Wm. Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kevin,  If it is not your gift to reach people in these arenas, that is fine. Why be offended if it is someone else's? Jesus is not bound by our limitations. He always raises someone up to preach the Gospel. That someone may be a philosopher to philosophers, a scientist to scientists, a blond haired big hallucination to druggies. What difference does it make? Praise the Lord!   Bill   jt: Now WHAT is the gospel?  We have several different Jesus characters here and I wonder how many gospels there are. The way I understand the example Jesus of Nazareth left - his followers left their nets to follow him.  They gave up their former way of life and thought - in Pauls case he counted all of it dung. I know everyone is not called to the same ministry as Paul and some folk do stay in their former professions but we are not to follow them.  There is ONE Lord.  We are focused more on Polanyi than Jesus here and the subject line is backward.  The person of Jesus IS ALL Truth.   judyt   From: Kevin Deegan I think not. The point is why go to a place where you must pick through  the trash to get at the meat, when you can go Boldly to the One who is truth? Why not point people directly to the Truth (John "thy word IS Truth") rather than a secondary source? Some might swallow a bone. "Wm. Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, what do you think, Kevin? Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.