From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Judy wrote:
> They gave up their former way of life and thought
> - in Pauls case he counted all of it dung.
 
Yet Paul continued to be a Pharisee. 
 
jt: Not so ... after his conversion Paul was no longer the Pharisee of
the Pharisees and one who persecuted the Church. 
 
He did not forsake his foundation in Judaism, but instead God used
his Pharisaical training to give us a significant contribution of the Holy
Scriptures. 
 
jt: Not so ... Paul spent up to 14yrs in the desert being retrained and
when he returned to Jerusalem and checked his gospel with the other
apostles he stated that he had not been taught by flesh and blood and
his Pharisaical training would have been given by flesh and blood ie:
 
"I certify you brethren that the gospel which was preached of me IS
NOT after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught
it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ" (Galatians 1:11,12)
 
A person can consider it all dung in the light of Christ, but that does
not mean that it is a sin to study and learn.
 
jt: Please don't make what Bill calls a "straw man"  Noone is saying
it's a sin to study and learn. The sin is in some of the attitudes here.
It's a sin to allow the wrong kind of wisdom to pre empt Christ and
when he loses pre eminence among those who claim to belong to
Him - something is very wrong.
 
Judy wrote:
> We are focused more on Polanyi than Jesus here
> and the subject line is backward.  The person
> of Jesus IS ALL Truth.
 
If Jesus IS ALL TRUTH, then all disciplines of study that lead to truth
lead to Jesus Christ.  I think we have been more focused on this list on
Judy than we have on Polanyi. 
 
jt: First we must be able to discern between good and evil or we will be
calling evil good and like Pilate asking "What is truth?" I have no philosophy
 - no system of thought people spend hours and hours trying to interpret.
Noone listens to me on MP3, DVD, and tape player - what would make you
say such a thing?
 
Who was Polanyi but another brother in Christ?  Why would you want
to make him any more or any less than that?
 
jt: I don't know about that DavidM so far I've not heard his testimony,
have you?

Does his great learning intimidate you or something?  Is ignorance
bliss?
 
jt: Why am I not surprised to find myself among the ignorant ones on your
sliding scale DavidM. Oh well! I've got lots of company; I'm so glad that God
does not choose the wise and prudent.... he gives us all a level playing
field.
 
judyt
 
"Man in his pomp is like the beasts
that perish"
 

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