It is grace verses works, whether Mormon, Baptist,**Red flag; doctrine of men. Grace is no covering for sin and it is only accessed
Catholic or whatever.
by faith...(Romans 5:2) and faith is dead without corresponding actions (Jame 2:17)
Just for the record, Blaine -- God's grace even saves a works-salvantionist. Christ died for us while we were yet sinners. A works-salvationist would say "Well, duh."
As one who is aware of his/her continued sinful self (Romans 3:23, IJo 1:8 etc), this statement "Christ died for us while we yet sinners" must have some relevance other than the obvious -- I mean all sacrifice for sin is created for those who are "yet sinners." What is significant about this statement is the fact that the sacrifice is once and for all time -- that the flow of the blood is eternal and continual, that our sins are remembered NO MORE. The problem for the sinner is not sin, it is the decision to avoid God and, hence, His solution. The problem is already solved. That is why the gentile (Romans 2) who has no knowledge of God or Christ but does by nature the things of the law can be saved -- because the sacrifice was made "while we were yet sinners."
Does that make sense to you, Blaine? And, are we on the same page on this?
John Smithson
