Re: [TruthTalk] Men's Doctrines

[Blaine Borrowman]

Blaine:  "Greater love hath no man than this--that he give his life for his friends.  You are my friends if you Keep My Commandments."  I did not bother to look this scripture up, what I have written I wrote from memory.  It is basically accurate, and it is a fundamental truth.  You will only be saved if you are willing to keep his commandments--although works alone will not save you, through both works AND his saving grace--his mercy--one MAY repent and start from scratch, and thereby be saved.  Otherwise, the justice of God will bind you to your sins, and you will have to pay for them yourself before you may come out from that prison ruled over by Satan.  Jesus alone has the keys to that prison, and only he stands at the gate to Heaven--he employs no servant there.  He will not let just anybody through, for strait is the gate, and narrow the way, and FEW there be that find it.  This scripture tells us not everyone that saith "Lord, Lord," will be admitted--just a "few." ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Men's Doctrines In a message dated 3/29/2004 6:10:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is grace verses works, whether Mormon, Baptist, Catholic or whatever. **Red flag; doctrine of men.  Grace is no covering for sin and it is only accessed by faith...(Romans 5:2) and faith is dead without corresponding actions (Jame 2:17) Just for the record, Blaine  --  God's grace even saves a works-salvantionist.  Christ died for us while we were yet sinners.  A works-salvationist would say "Well, duh." As one who is aware of his/her continued sinful self (Romans  3:23, IJo 1:8 etc), this statement "Christ died for us while we yet sinners" must have some relevance other than the obvious  --  I mean all sacrifice for sin is created for those who are "yet sinners."  What is significant about this statement is the fact that the sacrifice is once and for all time  --  that the  flow of the blood is eternal and continual, that our sins are remembered NO MORE.   The problem for the sinner is not sin,  it is the decision to avoid God and, hence, His solution.   The problem is already solved.   That is why the gentile (Romans 2) who has no knowledge of God or Christ but does by nature the things of the law can be saved  --  because the sacrifice was made "while we were yet sinners." Does that make sense to you, Blaine?  And, are we on the same page on this? John Smithson