Re: [TruthTalk] Access to Absolute Right and Wrong

[Lance Muir]

Conscience is determined by the conventions of a social grouping as I see it. Example: Same sex marriage    ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy Taylor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: April 03, 2004 10:43 Subject: [TruthTalk] Access to Absolute Right and Wrong   OK Lance, I'm asking, What did you mean?  jt From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> NOPE! You shouldn't use the words "say" and "mean" interchangeably,  Judy. You've missed my meaning again. If you require clarification so as to respond to what I did mean then, just ask. Thanks, Lance   jt: Then what you are saying Lance is that God is unreasonable and unjust because he expects something from us that we are incapable of.  His standard is too high and we remain deceived and helpless, creatures of darkness.  Before you say that Jesus is the answer and we are OK because of what he did remember that Jesus is part of the Godhead and God is one.  He is not the minister of sin. jt     From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Absolute right & wrong. lance     [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The conscience of "fallen" HK (Human kind) does not have veridical (coinciding with reality) access.     john: I understand "veridical"  --  but access to what?