Lance,

Oh, I thought you were misspelling "vertical", but wasn't sure since you
used the word so often. LOL! Thanks for the new word for the day. 

I don't plan to butt in on your conversation, but must just add a personal
note re: whether we are endowed with a conscience by our Creator. I remember
being around 6 years old and spying a beautiful glass marble on a neighbor's
back porch. I coveted it. I took it (secretly). But once I carried it home,
I could no longer enjoy it. I felt GUILTY. (I had never been told not to
steal--it was not a concept that had ever before crossed my mind.) My only
relief came from sneaking back to the neighbor's porch and throwing the
marble back where it came from, and running back home.  I never stole
another thing in my life. (Except my Sweetie's heart. :-) )

Izzy



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No, I don't. Veridical pertains to reality. However, if by vertical we meant
does HK (humankind) call right that which God calls "right" then, the answer
is no. Lance
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> Lance, I assume that whenever you write "verdical" that you mean vertical?
> Izzy
>
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> OUCH!! (self evident, elementary) You are quite wrong so, apparently it's
> neither self-evident nor elementary. THE CONSCIENCE OF HK (yes, it's meant
> to be Humankind) DOES NOT POSSESS VERIDICAL ACCESS. PS David, I'd thought
> you not the sort who   "proof-texted". David, if you've not had God reveal
> to you personally and, instead are only functioning with an
"unenlightened"
> conscience then...well, we won't, as Oprah would say "go there" Lance
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> > Lance, I don't understand your question.  What is HK?  Human Kind?  If
> > so, then my answer is yes, man does have access to moral reality
> > irrespective of his social culture.  Do you need me to present Bible
> > concerning this self evident elementary principle?
> >
> > Peace be with you.
> > David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.
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