[TruthTalk] Resist the devil

[Judy Taylor]

From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Answer: An unequivocal & resounding NO to both!! (visa vis example & greater works). I do understand what you and some others are alluding to, I just don't believe that the Scriptures are doing the same. Lance   jt: The scriptures are where this is recorded Lance. I am not ALLUDING to anything. I am reminding you of what Jesus Himself said. Now it is up to us.  We either believe Him and avail ourselves by faith or we cling to these doctrines that do not conform us to godliness and explain it all away in fear and unbelief.    jt     From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Being part of..." Sure! However, I apparently live and work with people who do reflect, daily, this "admixture" of which I spoke. Before you consign these people to the kingdom of darkness let me add that they are believers. I find such in the church, workplace, parachurch groups, on this site and on and on.. With all this rather unrealistic discussion taking place on TT pertaining to "sinlessness" I believe that the sort of gnostic dualism spoken of in recent days may be alive and well. Lance   jt: Gnostic dualism as per Artemis Lance?  Did Jesus leave us an example that we should follow in His steps or didn't He?  Did He say we would do the same works He did and greater or not? It's unfortunate and a shame that there is so little spiritual discernment in those who profess Christ but then it has always been the remnant who made it.  Only eight saved through the flood and just two of the generation that came out of Egypt made it into the Promised Land.  jt     From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Discussions on the matter of the will, our human will that is, have ranged from "bondage" to "freedom". There is, it seems to me, one consideration of "will" that borders on indisputable - self will. I believe that an admixture of Spirit & self are to be the nature of the case up to the point of our "departure". Also, I believe that any discussion of sinlessness and humanity in the same sentence may be applied only to that Vicarious Humanity of Jesus. Blessings, Lance   jt: So being part of the New Creation with old things passed away and all things becoming new has no place in your theology Lance?  What a dismal prospect.  jt     In a message dated 4/5/2004 9:18:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:       The Bible says,"Resist the devel and he will flee from you".  Just wondering.  Has anyone on this list had the devil flee from her/him? Terry       Actually another thought came to my little pea brain.  I do not believe that we can really understand what is meant in scripture in a discussion of sin and sinlessness if we do not have a grasp of the "practice if sin."       I put it this way  --                                  Before Christ, I practiced sin and committed acts of                righteousness.                                 After the cross in my life, I practice righteousness and       commit acts of sin.     John