Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

[Dave]

Terry Clifton wrote: Dave wrote: DAVEH:  How do you perceive Jesus' comment...... But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. .......Do you perceive endurance unto the end to equate to faith/repentance?  To me, this comment suggests salvation isn't resolved/accomplished until the end, yet apparently many TTers do not see it as I do.  What do you think Jesus was trying to convey, Terry? Terry It's pretty somple  to me Dave.   Why would a Christian not endure to the end? DAVEH:  I would think there are a few weak Christians who find their endurance capabilities are less than to the end.  Perhaps some realize that being a Christian can be a tough life to live.  Recently DavidM posted some moving stories regarding Christians in China who have suffered for their faith in the Lord.  Do you suppose there may have been some who took a less demanding course?     And then there is the possibility that some Christians may be distracted by Satan's persuasions.....   A follower follows.  A devoted servant does not  abandon his master.  It is completely logical to stick with the one who created you and has the power to save you or destroy you.  Anything other than that is foolish.  Are there fools in this world?  A quick look around will answer that question real quick.  Why are they foolish? DAVEH:  I've suggested a couple reasons above.  I suspect there are others.   Depends on who you ask.  All I know is as of right now, I plan on enduring to the end. Having said that, when Jesus talked to Zaccheus,  if I remember correctly, He said, "This day", salvation has come to your house.  Nothing about enduring to the end.  Let me know when you figure that out. DAVEH:   OK.....I think I've figured it out, Terry.  The name Jesus (or Yeshua or Joshua) means Jehovah saves.....or....Jehovah is salvation.  So, it is not too unusual to think Jesus might symbolically announce himself in this manner.  Whether or not those in the household were all subsequently saved is another matter that I don't believe is assured by his comment. Terry -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain Five email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF and MOTORCYCLE.