David: As I note that Bill is responding in some detail to your question(s), I'd like to ask you the following: In your own words WHAT DOES TFT MEAN when speaking of THE VICARIOUS LIFE AND DEATH OF THE MEDIATOR? Blessings, Lance From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: May 10, 2004 15:34 Subject: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ
> This thread is for talking about Thomas F. Torrance's book, The > Mediation of Christ. > > To Bill, Lance, and Jonathan: > > I have perhaps many comments, but I'm going to take this a little at a > time. I hope you are patient with me. > > For starters, I would like to hear your comments about Torrance's > perspective of the two sacraments being "converting ordinances." I am > especially interested in knowing if you view it this way, in light of > the comments that every person is born already in Christ. > > On p. 97, Torrance writes: > "Thus, to use earlier terminology, the sacraments of Baptism and Holy > Communion are not to be regarded merely as 'confirming ordinances' but > as 'converting ordinances', for in and through them the Gospel strikes > home to us in such a way as to draw us within the vicarious response to > God which Jesus Christ constitutes in his own humanity, the humanity > which he took from us and converted back to God the Father in himself. > > Perhaps you can comment on this in any way you like, but one thing I > wonder about is if we are all born in Christ already, and already > reconciled to God when we are born into the world, then what need is > there for "conversion"? Wouldn't everything subsequently be > "confirming"? > > Peace be with you. > David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida. > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
