Lance wrote: Izzy:I do not consider myself a universalist.If, however, God considered Himself a universalist I wouldn't be angry. I believe that Jesus' Humanity is vicarious. In the 'second Adam' all of humanity, from the first to the last, are included. Any exclusion is not of God's doing. Isn't it interesting how 'invested' we are in the particular way we come (through personal reading of Scripture, books, bible study groups, sermons etc.) to see & then to speak of God's Nature and Gospel.
jt: I don't know about all the books, groups, sermons etc. What I do know is that first came the natural and then the spiritual. The first man Adam became a living soul and the second Adam (Christ) a life giving spirit. Everyone is not included in the 2nd Adam by virtue of physical birth - only those who have been "Born Again" and have undergone a New Birth becoming part of a New Creation in Christ. Are we speaking of the same thing Lance/Izzy? Grace and Peace, From the LoneStar State Judyt ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.

