Lance wrote:
Izzy:I do not consider myself a universalist.If, however, God considered Himself a 
universalist I wouldn't be angry. I believe that Jesus' Humanity is vicarious. In the 
'second Adam' all of humanity, from the first to the last, are included. Any exclusion 
is not of
God's doing. Isn't it interesting how 'invested' we are in the particular way we come 
(through personal reading of Scripture, books, bible study groups, sermons etc.) to 
see & then to speak of God's Nature and Gospel.

jt: I don't know about all the books, groups, sermons etc. What I do know is that 
first came the natural and then the spiritual. The first man Adam became a living soul 
and the second Adam (Christ) a life giving spirit. Everyone is not included in the 2nd 
Adam by virtue of physical birth - only those who have been "Born Again" and have 
undergone a New Birth becoming part of a New Creation in Christ. Are we speaking of 
the same thing Lance/Izzy?

Grace and Peace, From the LoneStar State

Judyt

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