Izzy: I'd really appreciate it if you didn't "play" to this stereotype. You write well. I looked through your book. I read your description of the time the two of you had at the park.Izzy, you say important things well and with more warmth than most. At least read while quilting. Remember what I said: Women live theology while men speak of it. This so-called "conversation" is about Jesus. I already know He matters to you more than anyone or anything. I believe that when He came to this earth to become one of us He then proceded to redeem us as a man empowered by the Spirit of God. I believe that it is as a man, empowered by the Spirit, that He overcame Satan, sin, sickness and death. This same Spirit that empowered Jesus empowers us. Is this essentially what you believe? Blessings, Lance ----- Original Message ----- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: May 11, 2004 13:25 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ
> Don't feel bad, Lance. It's not that I'm 12 yrs old. It's just that I'm a > female. :-) I'd rather spend my time quilting while you fellas come up with > a consensus for the rest of us. Izzy > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 10:46 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ > > David: "No syntactics contains it's own semantics." Agree/Disagree? In all > communication success is determined by an overlap of meaning (semantics). No > overlap, no communication. > PS: For shame on all of us for communicating in such a way as to prompt Izzy > to drop out 'til we're done.CSLewis supposedly said something to the effect > that: If you can't successfully communicate your meaning to a 12 yr old (no, > Izzy I don't mean you) it may be the case that you don't know what you're > talking about. I actually though the two illustrations (smiling & Jesus) > sort of made this point. Blessings, Lance > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: May 11, 2004 12:32 > Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ > > > > Lance wrote: > > > What is your understanding of semantic? > > > > The word "semantic" refers to the meaning of words. Sometimes a person > > might say the same thing but use different words. For example, someone > > might say, "that was really Great!" Another person might say, "No, that > > was really Excellent!" They both might be trying to communicate > > identical concepts, but the words they use are different and might have > > different meanings for each of them. > > > > Lance wrote: > > > What is your understanding of syntax? > > > > The word "syntax" refers to how words are organized and arranged into > > phrases and sentences to communicate an idea. > > > > Lance wrote: > > > How can a difference be more than semantic? > > > > Easy. Sometimes people really mean to communicate something different. > > > > For example, if I was to describe gravity as a force between objects > > that have mass, that would be different than describing gravity as a > > path in space which objects tend to follow. This difference is what > > lies at the heart of Newtonian physics versus Einsteinian physics. > > According to the Newtonian viewpoint, light would not be effected by > > gravity because it has no mass. On the other hand, Einstein's model > > predicts that gravity effects light too. > > > > In regards to theology, some might talk about righteousness as a legal > > standing with God, whereas someone else might see righteousness as being > > more than that, as indicating a virtue within the heart of man. The > > latter concept sees righteousness as a thing having existence within > > man, whereas the former sees righteousness as something external to man, > > something which only effects God's view of man regardless of man's > > actual state of being. In this case, there is a semantic component of > > defining the word "righteousness" but there is more than that. There is > > an actual difference in perspective of the truth being discussed. There > > is a difference in the actual apprehension of reality and not just in > > what words are used to communicate that understanding. > > > > If I were to say that an argument is primarily semantic, it would mean > > that the persons discussing the subject perceive the actual truth in the > > same way, but they differ in the words they use to describe that truth. > > If an argument is more than just semantics, then it means that the > > opposing viewpoints substantially differ in their actual comprehension > > of the truth and not just in what words they choose to use to convey > > that understanding. > > > > Peace be with you. > > David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida. > > > > ---------- > > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may > know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) > http://www.InnGlory.org > > > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. 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