michael douglas wrote:
Michael D: Thank you Dave H for reposting this. I think Kevin's point highlights the seeming dilemma inherent in David's previous and current positions.
DAVEH: There is no dilemma for me, MichaelD. I know what I believe, and am very comfortable with those beliefs. Though some TTers want to put a different spin on those beliefs to portray them negatively, I am not concerned because much of what they say is either not true, or misconstrued.
Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:DAVEH: Seems like a lot of Christian folks think salvation is for any believer in Jesus, excepting if that believer is a member of a group labeled as a cult.Or that "BELIEVER"believes in the Jesus that is Satan's brother.
believes in the MAN Jesus who worked his way upward to become a god(he was a man who progressed to become a god, not the God who lowered himself to become a man) believes in a Jesus that had to score a wife or wives (plural) to become a god. who was married in a Temple and performed all those SECRET Temple rituals, including baptism for the dead. believes in a Jesus that has a "Heavenly Mother" believes in a Jesus that has a Father, that had a Father, that had a Father, AD Infinitum... believes in a Jesus who had a better plan than his Brother Lucifer's plan at the "council of the gods" believes in a Jesus who is the "LITERAL" son of Elohim the Father & Mary That Jesus is a counterfiet and idol of yours & Jo Smiths imagination. He could not save anybody, he does not exist. He can not speak nor hear, can not answer prayers.
Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Michael D: Hansen, I think I inadvertently deleted your last response to me. Can you please resend.DAVEH: I think this is the last one I posted, MichaelD.
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Dave wrote:
michael douglas wrote:DAVEH: Seems like a lot of Christian folks think salvation is for any believer in Jesus, excepting if that believer is a member of a group labeled as a cult.DAVEH: I haven't been following this thread too close, so I may not fully understand what comments you are expecting of me, Michael.Michael D: My main reason for anticipating your response is in the light of David not categorically alleging that your concept of Jesus prevents you from achieving eternal life (as far as I remember in past discussions) whereas others affirmed just that. The statements in view from him here, however, seem to have serious implications for LDS hopes for any salvation if their status remains quo (based on his stated position).
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