In a message dated 5/31/2004 10:32:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Proverbs 23: 13-14  Do not withhold correction from a child, for if you beat him with a rod, he will not die.
You shall beat him with a rid, and deliver his soul from Hell.
God


Maybe G is not talking about this  -- but that is the scripture I had in mind.  We ahve severn children and 11 grandchildren.  I am crazy about each and every grandchild. They are great  ---   and spoiled.   They interrupt on a whim  -- they cry and whine until they get their way.   They are exhausting.  The parents (our children) do the "time out" thing (which is good but not the only or even the best solution).  When the kids come over to gramps house, and they do like being here, well gramps has a different way of dealing with them. 

I don't spank the grandkids  -- that is the parents job.  But they sit at the dinner table until they have eaten the food that they served to themselves  -- if it takes all afternoon, so be it.  That sort of thing.   Its kind of fun from gramps. 

Anyway  - we are all probably on the same page on this one. 

God bless

John



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