RE: [TruthTalk] Interesting Book

[ShieldsFamily]

Thanks Lance.  I’m not that interested in his theory either; only in the fact that it’s new to me that someone would think the Kingdom of God is ONLY the 1000 yr millennium; and he believes that SIMPLY to relieve the stress caused by the incompatibility of scripture with the “once saved, always saved” doctrine.  As far as the Chitwood idea; that another doozie.  I’d have to think it was somewhat even possible for the soul and the spirit to get saved separately before I’d spend any time listening to that one. J Izzy   PS Sorry I’ve been slow to answer lately.  I just sent off my son, his wife, and the 3 granddaughters (6, 4, & 2) this morning. They stayed here 4 days last week.  We still have another week (5 altogether) with our 12 & 14 yr olds before they must be returned to their mother/stepfather again.  Family is Wonderful, but SO busy!   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 11:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Interesting Book   Izzie:Though I've only 'glanced' through his book, I have listened to him lecture on it's content.  I've almost no interest whatever in his material. The owner's of the store, Alex & Teresia Lam espouse what he teaches. I could, if you so wish have one or both contact you re:Faust.   I vascilate on the 'eternally secure' issue.   Lance From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July 08, 2004 09:04 Subject: [TruthTalk] Interesting Book   Lance,   I am reading (as much as possible with lots of family here for several weeks) one of the books you sent me from your Ontario Bookstore, “The Rod, Will God Spare It?” by JD Faust.  Although I have some major disagreements with the author’s point of view, I am still really enjoying learning what he thinks.  I was wondering if you would answer a few questions for me to help in discussing the book: Have you read the book? Do you agree with the author’s “once saved, always saved” philosophy? (Or do you just think that everyone is saved? I’m not sure.) Do you agree with the author that “the Kingdom” that Jesus referred to was ONLY the 1,000 year Millennial reign of Christ?   One reason I find the book interesting is that, in spite of the author’s “once saved, always saved” beliefs, he literally believes in the obvious warnings in scripture to those who are Believers that they will be denied entering into The Kingdom of God.  I take them to mean that you can lose your salvation if you choose to rebel against the Lord by choosing a sinful, disobedient lifestyle.  He (and how many others like him, I wonder?) resolve this dilemma that their doctrine obviously raises by believing that Yes, there will be Judgment for Believers, but NO it won’t be eternal damnation.  He claims that the words “damnation”, etc, just mean severe but temporary judgment (like a Protestant version of RCC purgatory), and a denial of entering in to the 1,000 year Sabbath Millennial reign of Jesus.  He claims that “carnal” Believers (perhaps like Jonathan’s view of Bill Clinton?) do not go to an eternity separated from God, but instead suffer such “temporary” judgment. I didn’t know such a view existed.   Granted, I’ve only gotten to page 90 (mostly in moments around midnight, before my peepers collapse) out of 400+ pages, but that’s the drift I see so far.  So maybe you have read it and can correct me?  I was just hoping to get your take on it.  Thanks for recommending it,   Izzy