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There are no references to America in the
Bible.
Hmmm ...
EZEKIEL 38 speaks first of all of the Russian Bear. It also speaks of
others in alliance with the Russian Bear.
Verse 8 shows the context of
time, "After many days ... in the latter years". This speaks of a future time
from that of Ezekiel that has yet to be fulfilled. Are these times "the latter
years"? Does this speak of OUR TIME?
Verse 8 also shows the Russian Bear
with its alliances coming to a particular land. This land is "brought back from
the sword". This land is "gathered out of many people". This land is identified
as "the mountains of Israel which have been ALWAYS waste but it is brought forth
out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them".
Is this
land of Israel the same as that of Palestine?
In verse 9 YahVeh speaks to/of the Russian Bear with its
alliances, "Thou shalt ASCEND and come like a storm". It does not say DESCEND as
south into Israel in Palestine. Scripture says ASCEND as in north to
??????
Verse 9 says to/of the Russian Bear with its alliances, "... thou shalt
be like a cloud to cover the land" as in an aerial transport of an overwhelming
army, or perhaps a hail of missiles, or possibly even a literal "mushroom
cloud"!
Verse 9 says to/of the Russian Bear with its alliances, "...
thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee".
Is there another
"Israel" than that land commonly identified as Israel that is also a most hated
and despised nation?
Is verse 11 an even clearer continuation that Ezekiel 38 could NOT be about
Israel in the land of Palestine?
Verse 11 says to/of the Russian Bear
with its alliances, "... thou shalt say, 'I will GO UP' ..." as in north. It
does not say GO DOWN to Israel as in Palestine.
Verse 11 reveals the
thoughts of the Russian Bear, "... to the land of unwalled villages ...". The
land of Israel in Palestine today is a land of VILLAGES that are WALLED.
Verse 11 reveals further the thoughts of the Russian Bear, "... I will
go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without
walls ...". The land of Israel in Palestine today is a land of VILLAGES that are
on constant and heightened alert and that do NOT "dwell safely", neither can it
be said of those that dwell in Palestine that they are "of them dwelling without
walls ..."!
Verse 12 reveals the purpose and desire of the Russian Bear
with its alliances, "To take a spoil". Once again, take note of Israel in
Palestine today, its land and the condition thereof. What "spoil" would be taken
from there?
Verse 12 reveals yet again the identity of where the attack
is to be upon, "... to turn thine hand UPON THE DESOLATE PLACES ..." - - at
the time that Ezekiel is writing - - "... that are now inhabited ..." - - as to
the future date according to the earlier portion Ezekiel wrote in this chapter
of "the latter days".
Verse 12 further reveals the purpose and desire of the Russian Bear, "... to
have gotten CATTLE and GOODS that DWELL IN THE MIDST OF THE LAND". Does this
apply to Israel in the land of Israel in Palestine?
Has Ezekiel 38 been generally misinterpreted? Review again this chapter
beginning with verse 9 as noted above.
In verse 9 YahVeh speaks to/of the Russian Bear with its alliances,
"Thou shalt ASCEND and come like a storm". It does not say DESCEND as south into
Israel in Palestine. Scripture says ASCEND as in north ... over the polar ice
cap with its SHORTER and more PROTECTED from radar route to America as Israel
EXTENDED!
Verse 9 says to/of the Russian Bear with its alliances, "...
thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land" as in an aerial transport of an
overwhelming army, or perhaps a hail of missiles ... or possibly even a literal
"mushroom cloud"!
Verse 9 says to/of the Russian Bear with its
alliances, "... thou, and all thy bands, and many people with
thee".
America as Israel EXTENDED is a most hated and despised nation.
She is taken advantage of, not truly loved, nor is she respected. Many (?most?)
will join with the Russian Bear against America as Israel EXTENDED.
Is
verse 11 an even clearer continuation that Ezekiel 38 is about America as Israel
EXTENDED?
Verse 11 says to/of the Russian Bear with its alliances, "...
thou shalt say, 'I will GO UP' ..." as in north over the polar ice cap with its
SHORTER and more PROTECTED from radar route to America as Israel EXTENDED! It
does not say GO DOWN as in south to Israel as in Palestine.
Verse 11
reveals the thoughts of the Russian Bear, "... to the land of unwalled villages
...". Does this not more definitively speak to America as Israel EXTENDED?!? It
CANNOT refer to Israel in Palestine since VILLAGES there are WALLED.
Verse 11 reveals further the thoughts of the Russian Bear, "... I will
go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without
walls ...". Does this not more definitively speak again to AMERICA as Israel
EXTENDED?!? Once again, it CANNOT refer to Israel in Palestine as VILLAGES there
are on constant and heightened alert, do NOT "dwell safely", neither can it be
said of those that dwell in Palestine that they are "of them dwelling without
walls ..."!
Verse 12 reveals the purpose and desire of the Russian Bear
with its alliances, "To take a spoil". Does this not more definitively speak yet
again to America as Israel EXTENDED! Once again, it CANNOT refer to Israel in
Palestine. There is no "spoil" to be profited from there.
Verse 12
reveals yet once again the identity of where the attack is to be upon, "... to
turn thine hand UPON THE DESOLATE PLACES ..." - - at the time that Ezekiel is
writing - - "... that are now inhabited ..." - - as to the future date according
to the earlier portion Ezekiel wrote in this chapter of "the latter days". Does
this not more definitively speak yet once again to America as Israel EXTENDED
mixed with "... the people that are gathered out of the nations ..."!
Verse 12 further reveals the purpose and desire of the Russian Bear,
"... to have gotten CATTLE and GOODS that DWELL IN THE MIDST OF THE LAND". The
Russian Bear covets (and has ALWAYS coveted) the "CATTLE and GOODS that DWELL IN
THE MIDST OF" **America**. Does not this Scripture address the geographical area
of the Russian Bear as the instrument of judgment of YahVeh against the
sin centers of America as Israel EXTENDED on our COASTS - - HOLLYWOOD/LOS
ANGELES, SEATTLE, NEW YORK CITY, ATLANTA, FLORIDA. Is this not prophecy of the
Russian Bear with its alliances seeking to save, to spoil, and to plunder the
internal portion of this nation?
SELAH.
America was founded upon REVOLUTION - - "brought back from
the sword".
America is KNOWN throughout the world as a "melting pot" - -
"gathered out of many people".
America possesses much higher points than
Palestine, and is the greatest strength for the nation-state of Israel in
Palestine - - "the mountains of Israel".
America was a wasteland at the
time that Ezekiel wrote. It was a land with a rich potential, although it was a
waste due to its lack of development to that time - - "which have been ALWAYS
waste". This CANNOT refer to the land of Palestine for it had not been ALWAYS
waste, having been previously profitable prior to captivity.
America
would be brought forth from having "been ALWAYS waste" when it would be "brought
forth out of the nations" in mixture with Israel since Israel was insistent upon
mixing with the nations throughout its history.
If you DO NOT KNOW of the
history of ISRAEL after their CAPTIVITY and DISPERSION then you will not know
WHO, WHAT, and WHERE is ISRAEL. Your readings of prophecy will subsequently be
skewed.
I think the Exegeses Bible gives the MOST ACCURATE TRANSLATION
OF VERSES 11 AND 12:
AND YOU SAY, "I ASCEND TO THE LAND OF SUBURBS; I GO
TO THEM WHO REST -- WHO SETTLE CONFIDENTLY; ALL OF THEM SETTLING WITHOUT WALLS
AND HAVING NEITHER BARS NOR DOORS; TO SPOIL A SPOIL AND TO PLUNDER A PLUNDER" --
TO TURN YOUR HAND ON THE PARCHED AREAS NOW INHABITED, AND ON THE PEOPLE GATHERED
FROM THE GOYIM, WHO WORK CHATTEL AND WHO CHATTEL -- WHO SETTLE ON THE SUMMIT OF
THE LAND.
AMERICA as Israel EXTENDED would eventually "dwell safely"
more than 2 millennia after this prophecy was given, or as the Exegeses Bible
renders it (perhaps more accurately) "and they shall SETTLE CONFIDENTLY all of
them".
SELAH.
Ahava b' YahShua
(Love in The
SAVIOUR)
Baruch YHVH,
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