Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus Blood

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In a message dated 7/25/2004 1:39:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Izzyâs 2 cents:  I cast my vote for Jesus is the seed of Adam BOTH physically AND spiritually.  Can anyone tell me why not? One thing that really bugs me about the RCC is this teaching that Mary had to be perfect/sinless/unstained by original sin before she could be the mother of Jesus.  How this happened was supposedly a miracleâwho knows? And WHY did she have to be perfect and sinlessâwhy so that Jesus would not be tainted with sin, of course (they say)!  Well, please tell me this: If God was not able to make Jesus (who only had ONE earthly parent) born free of the taint of âoriginal sinâ , HOW did God every pull off making Mary perfectly sinless and untainted with original sin, who had TWO earthly parents??? No one has ever âsplained that to me.  I guess God the Father was not able to do for Jesus, His own Son, what He was able to do for Mary.  (More RCC goofiness.)

Actually, Iz, you have hit upon one of the better arguments against "original sin."   The mythology regarding Mother Mary is a theological issue born out of necessity.  The Roman Church Fathers put themselves in a corner with this original sin idea.   There is no choice but to rid Mary of all sin.  

I believe that I can defend the idea that Adam was not different from his offspring.  He was created  flesh and blood, fully capable of sin and sinning, and mortal (were it not for the tree of life).   When Paul writes Ro 5:12 and says that "by one man sin entered the world and death by sin so that death passed upon all men because all have sinned" he was this similarity. 

I believe the entire Old Testament account has as a primary purpose, the task of showing us that man will fail to be saved without an utterly divine solution, i.e. the God in Christ on the Cross.  Man's salvation is not secure(d) under law, even God's law, under prophetical leader, under kings, under bondage and not even when everything is perfect  -- ala,  the Garden of Eden.  There is no way for man to be fully reconciled to God apart from the Christ of the Cross.   It is not that Adam blew it for the rest of us  --  it is that as a seed must die to fulfill it true destiny, so man must die in Christ.  The death of Christ reached back to Adam and brought all the elect of God into an eternal destiny that is not possible and was never possible by physical creation.  

work in progress

JD