On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 12:04:34 -0400 "Hughes Jonathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
My passion is good. My anger mixed with passion is where I fail. When I begin to judge those that disagree with me.....I like what you say below. Jesus was only intolerant of those that projected the wrong perception of His Father. Try to get in the way of adoption and Christ was gonna get angry real quick.jt: Adoption had nothing to do with anything Jonathan. Jesus was angry with the Pharisees because they claimed to see when they were spiritually blind. They were hypocrites who said one thing and did another and this is why their sin remained. IOW they were deceived themselves and busy deceiving others. Blind guides of the blind.The Father, 'while we were still sinners' longs to embrace us and share His holiness with us. Holiness is not a stainless steel box that we call purity. Holiness is a relational term (think holy, holy, holy in Revelation) that describes the pure relationship of the Father, Son and Spirit. When we make it a legal term we fall into trouble.jt:; Holiness is a state of being which does not come by osmosis and sanctification does not just fall on anyone. Salvation is something that is to be worked out - "with fear and trembling"judyt
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In a message dated 9/28/2004 7:21:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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It was the Pharisees and Teachers of the Law that got so mad at Jesus for hanging out with the 'pathetic losers' (read sinners). I am proud to be part of that group.
Jonathan Hughes
Absolutely.
At the point in time when we consider ourselves different from the others in terms of holiness and spiritual thought, we will cease to be a part of their world. A separation will begin --- an expanding gulf will insue and separation between us and them will evolve to the point that we cannot and will not help "them." We will move into boxes called church buildings. As the expanding gulf widens, those in one box will throw stones at those in the other boxes -- the world be damned. In the end, we become so irrelevant that, when the box burns down, we have nothing left -- not even a place along side the others.
If I am just like you, but with different problems, if I have a Father who accepts me just as I am and will ever be while offering to help me into the Next Opportunity , I will be disposed to share that Father with you, knowing that He is your Father as well.
I must never forget that I am a part of the God's plan of salvation in terms of my witness to that event. And the witness that counts is the witness that I live out each and every day.
By the way, Jonathan, my oldest son (37 years), has the very same ideas you do when it comes to this election. and the same passion. It has made for some very spirited discussions. He is the one kid (out of five) that actually thinks he is a match for his old man. But I love him anyway.
a brother,
John
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