David.

This was a wonderfully thought-out and expressed post. Thank you.

-- slade

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Subject: [TruthTalk] Torah

Jonathan, I think the disagreement here is frustrated by some 
misunderstanding.  It seems to me that Jeff is NOT saying Jesus = Torah. 
Rather, the perspective is that Torah is a subset of the Word and therefore 
when you talk about the Word you are talking about both Yeshua and Torah.  I 
hope it is not necessary for me to draw a Venn diagram here to help you 
understand the set theory being expressed.

The reason we can't substitute Torah for Logos in John 1:1 is because Torah 
is the subset.  Just because we should not do that substitution does not 
mean that Torah is not included in the concept of Logos.

Logos is a broad word, meaning word or message, but also meaning reasoning, 
motive, and cause of something.  Showing Yeshua to be the Logos made flesh 
is a powerful statement.  It is basically saying that the understanding, 
reason, and cause of all things is found in a person, the person of Jesus 
Christ.  Therefore, the Torah also finds its existence and origination in 
Jesus Christ.  Torah is not the only thing that originates in Christ, but it 
is one thing, and I would add that there is nothing in Torah that is not 
Christ.

Peace be with you.
David Miller.


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