The portion beginning 'could it be that..' was probably unnecessary unless
'one' (this one) missed the humorous intent therein.

I suspect, David, that you'll die living in utter denial re: the presence of
an 'attitude' present within some of your posts.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: November 11, 2004 12:03
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Gospel


> David Miller wrote:
> >> Consider also that the apostles were sent out to preach the gospel
> >> long  before they even understood that Jesus was to die, be buried,
> >> and then rise again from the dead!  What were they preaching?
> >> They certainly were NOT  preaching what you have defined the
> >> gospel to be, which is simply the death, burial, and resurrection
> >> of the Lord.  So what is your position on this?  Do you believe
> >> that the gospel was changed later, or do you believe that they
> >> preached the same gospel later that they had preached at the first,
> >> when Jesus first called them apostles and sent them out to preach?
>
> John wrote:
> > Sounds like you believe there was a difference.
>
> I do not believe that the gospel message changed.  That is my point.  The
> elements of his death, burial, and resurrection were added to the gospel
> preaching, and these last parts were given primary importance, but it was
> the same gospel that they had preached before, which is the gospel of the
> kingdom of God, the command to repent and receive the remission of sins
> being important parts of this message.
>
> John wrote:
> > Before the cross, they preached Christ such
> > as He was before  the cross.
>
> What does that mean, "they preached Christ"?  That is the whole point.
What
> exactly did they say when they preached Christ?
>
> What did Jesus Christ himself say when he "preached the gospel"?  Did
Jesus
> talk about himself when he preached the gospel?
>
> When Jesus told the disciples of John the Baptist to report that the
gospel
> is preached to the poor, did he mean his death, burial, and resurrection,
or
> something else?  Did he mean that he was declaring himself to the poor, or
> was there something else that he had in mind?
>
> John wrote:
> > After that defining moment, they preached Christ cruscified
> > and raise from the dead.  The good news is Christ.
> > Go ahead and call me a heretic.
>
> The concept of heretic has nothing to do with this discussion.  Are you
> trying to say that before Christ was crucified, they preached the kingdom
of
> God being at hand, repentance, and the remission of sins, but that after
> Christ was crucified and raised from the dead, then they stopped preaching
> these other parts of the gospel?
>
> Could it be that you have a very narrow view of the gospel? Is it possible
> that you have never truly heard the gospel yourself?
>
> Peace be with you.
> David Miller.
>
>
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