I am admitedly confused between the Johns. One of them
said that and Lance said something too you are right. 
Sorry for putting the wrong person with the quote. I
will consider looking at the archives. But I do not
want to get into the middle of anything. It seems like
this disagreement is one that will go nowhere.

All I was asking of the people in that discussion was
that they would not agrue like that. The whole "I know
you are but what am I" type argument is something that
we should be avoiding.

Suzy
 
--- Jonathan Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Suzy.  Wow.  And I am accused of being sensitive on
> this board!  No need to
> bow out.  I just suggested to you that there was
> more to it than you at
> first thought.  In other words, extend the grace you
> have given to David to
> John as well.
> 
> Furthermore the archives of this list are located at
>
http://www.mail-archive.com/truthtalk%40mail.innglory.org/index.html
> 
> You do not need to take my side in this at all.  You
> do need to be aware
> that there is more than one side.
> 
> David (the owner of this list) often takes breaks -
> up to three or four
> months at a time.  His not posting is not a result
> of any comments made on
> the board.  David is a big boy and can easily take
> care of himself.  And for
> the record I did not accuse you of being a devotee
> of the sainted David.
> Please read more carefully before you state such
> things.  That discussion
> was with Lance and John, not me.
> 
> JBH
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Susan Petersen
> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 10:50 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The Gospel
> 
> Of course, I would not know the long history and I
> have no archives to look back on since I just signed
> up. What I saw as a newcomer is people arguing not
> discussing. And why were they arguing because they
> would not listen to the other when he claimed that
> He
> did not have an attitude. They are arguing because
> the
> other is trying to have them explain their point so
> that they could understand.
> 
> I'm sorry if your feelings are hurt because I did
> not
> take your side so to speak. If I have spoken in
> error
> I apologize. I, in no way, was out to be a "judge." 
> 
> I will bow out of this conversation since my
> newcomer
> input is not welcome. You may continue to agrue if
> you
> like. Let me just point out one thing before I leave
> this conversation. David has not posted since you
> accused him of being the sainted and that I was one
> of
> his devotees.
> 
> Suzy
> 
> Suzy 
> --- Jonathan Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Suzy,
> > 
> > I am not sure what your purpose is here.  You have
> > been on the forum for
> > about 5 or 6 days and have jumped right into a
> > discussion that has a very
> > long history.  A certain edge has built up during
> > this conversation they
> > have been having.  Both of them have to
> communicate
> > through this edge.  You
> > seem to be able to see John's edge but not
> David's. 
> > When Lance points this
> > out you jump on him and send some judgment his
> way. 
> > I would suggest reading
> > some of the archives so that you may understand
> what
> > is happening from both
> > sides here.
> > 
> > Questioning people's salvation has become a
> > recurring theme on this forum
> > for one of its cliques.   They believe that it is
> a
> > nice and effective
> > tactic.  In reality, it is a hindrance to
> dialogue. 
> > Knowing that this has
> > been going on for months may help you understand
> > John's reaction to David
> > questioning John's grasp of the gospel.  It is
> like
> > an iceberg; a raw edged
> > tip is above the water but much more lurks
> beneath.
> > 
> > Jonathan
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf
> > Of Susan Petersen
> > Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 4:01 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Gospel
> > 
> > That would be an invalid experiment because you
> are
> > excluding David's explanation of what he said. It
> > was
> > offensive to you after you read it. But after
> David
> > explained himself you rejected his explanation.
> Take
> > him at his word. Believe that he meant it as an
> > honest
> > question so that he could better understand where
> > you
> > were coming from. Iron sharpens iron. And I am
> sure
> > that hurts when it is done. I have felt it.
> > 
> > Suzy
> > 
> > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > > In a message dated 11/13/2004 7:45:51 AM Pacific
> > > Standard Time, 
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > > 
> > > > Is it possible that you have never
> > > > >>>>truly heard the gospel yourself?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Suzy  -  let's try an experiment.   Take that
> > > question, write it down exactly 
> > > as it is written, tell you unsuspecting friends
> > that
> > > someone on an email 
> > > group presented this question to you and ask
> them
> > > what they think it means?  
> > > 
> > > Wanna bet no one will come up with anything
> > similar
> > > to DM explanation?  
> > > 
> > > John
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > ---
> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
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> > (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > Version: 6.0.792 / Virus Database: 536 - Release
> > Date: 11/9/2004
> >  
> > 
> > ----------
> > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned
> with
> > salt, that you may know how you ought to answer
> > every man."  (Colossians 4:6)
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