RE: [TruthTalk] 613 Commands

[Hughes Jonathan]

Hi Judy,  for once I am actually in agreement with you here.  But I am left confused.  On one hand you point to Christ as the fulfillment of the law, that we do not have the law plus Jesus.  >From past posts of yours which seemed to place primacy on the law and types I would have thought you would be more supportive of Suzy's position.  It appears that I was wrong in thinking this of you.  What I am now trying to understand is why you still think we are under the blessings and curses of Deuteronomy but not under the laws of Deuteronomy.  Please understand that I am honestly attempting to understand you here, not to mock you.  I have no follow-up post to slam you regardless of what your answer is.  I am attempting to put together why from my perspective there seems to be a disconnect.  Basically, why are the blessings and curses not fulfilled in Christ when the law was?  Can we separate them out so that one still applies?  Your answer may be that the law was a tutor to lead us to Christ but that the blessings/curses have a different purpose and therefore are still in effect.   By the way I think that your 'two covenants/houses' analogy is quite good. Jonathan Hughes From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 8:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] 613 Commands    From: Susan Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Adhering to the Law of Moses to earn salvation is legalism and bondage. There is nothing we can do to earn our salvation. Once again I say that we follow the Law out of love for Jesus. If you love Me you will follow my commandments. And there is no difference between God's commandments and Jesus' commandments.   jt: God's condition for salvation is the obedience that comes through faith and Jesus did not give 613 Commands Suzy. The law was given as a tutor or schoolmaster to show us the sinfulness of sin and to lead us to Christ. It's not 613 Commands plus Jesus.  There are two houses or Covenants described in Hebrews 3:   "Therefore holy brethren, partakers of a heavenly calling, consider Jesus, the Apostle and High Priest of our confession. He was faithful to Him who appointed Him, as Moses also was in all His house.  For He has been counted worthy of more glory than Moses, by just so much as the builder of the house has more honor than the house.  For every house is built by someone, but the builder of all things is God.  Now Moses was faithful in all His house as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken later; but Christ was faithful as a Son over His house whose house we are IF we hold fast our confidence and the boast of our hope firm until the end"   Judyt