RE: [TruthTalk] The right way to get to the truth

[ShieldsFamily]

Thank you, Bill. Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Taylor Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 9:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The right way to get to the truth   Because you and your buddies treat him like you intensely dislike him.  Example: “Some people know how to disagree without being jerks in the process.”   Izzy, please do not be so quick to think poorly of me (us). I was careful in my wording not to be specific in any of my statements. That included this one: "Some people know how to disagree without being jerks in the process.” I prefaced this statement with, "It is not every discussion over differences that strains relationships." I then went on to list several ways that believers might disagree without having that disagreement strain their relationship: 1) "Some people know how to disagree without being jerks in the process." 2) "Some methodologies are better than others." 3) "When people know that you care about them as persons, it makes a difference." Then I drew a conclusion: "And so it is not THAT you disagree nearly as much as it is HOW you disagree, that relationships are or are not strained."  My statement was not specifically directed at David, any more than it was specifically about anyone (the overall tone of my post should help to verify this). It simply addressed David's very general inquiry in a very general way. He wrote, "Now you seem to indicate here that our discussion over differences strain our relationship with you.  Can you explain this?" The first "our" in his statement could have been understood to refer to David and me -- "our relationship" -- but the second use of "our" opens the statement to include who knows how many others. I addressed his question accordingly.   With that said, Izzy, in this time of heightened tensions, I will try to be ever more diligent not to give you or anyone else a reason to draw a false impression.    Bill     ----- Original Message ----- From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 7:12 AM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The right way to get to the truth         Perhaps you could send one to TT?   I thought that's why you were here. It is why I am here :>) Do you think we must be disagreeable when we disagree? Of course not.  So why is it happening, do you think???   Because you don’t like him. (duh!) Iz  I doubt if even David would agree with your logic on this one: to know him is to like him. He has written at length about the enemies he has made. Do none of them know him? Do you think when he disagrees with either you or me on this one, it will necessarily be because either he does not know us or he does not like us? He probably wouldn’t, as he is a humble man.  But those who are of the same Spirit love David.  Those who aren’t, don’t.   The thought of like or dislike did not enter my mind when I asked the question. We both know people we like; we both know people we don't like. Why did it enter yours? Because you and your buddies treat him like you intensely dislike him.  Example: “Some people know how to disagree without being jerks in the process.”  Izzy