One is the language of 'Trinitarianese' apparently not spoken by you while the other is 'Rationalese' spoken by all of us but MOSTLY BY YOU.
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: December 10, 2004 14:42 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is Truth always rational? > Lance wrote: > > There exists an 'inner logic' available to HK (see Michael Polanyi's > > 'Personal Knowledge-Towards a Post-Critical Philosophy) which > > I would divide into two considerations: 1. Within the cosmos such > > 'inner-logic' is available to all. 2. Bridging the 'gap' between the > > cosmos and the inner life of God as respects His own creation > > there exists another 'inner logic' available to those who, through > > participation in Jesus' Incarnational/Mediatorial Life have access > > to that others do not. (could this be any fuzzier?) > > LOL. This is pretty fuzzy. > > Does Polanyi use this politically correct "humankind" terminology too? I > have to admit an uncomfortableness I have using the word humankind in place > of mankind. It is almost like using the word "gay" for "homosexual." > > So what kind of "inner logic" is this in number 2? This seems like a modern > version of Gnosticism. I'm not saying this as a slam, but in soberness. > The Gnostics claimed their own relationship with the Creator gave them > knowledge others did not have, and they invented all manner of stories about > creation because of it. Surely you have read these fanciful stories in the > church fathers. Is this the kind of inner logic being spoken about? > Exactly how does it differ from the inner logic available to all? Can you > give an example? > > Lance wrote: > > As to John and David's discussion: I perceived David > > to be functioning within #1 exclusively while John was > > functioning, practically, within #2 It appears to me that > > David believes that #1 provides access to #2 while > > I do not. > > Can you please clarify? First you took the position that truth is not > always logical and rational. Now you say that those in Christ have a > different kind of logic that enables them to reach conclusions unavailable > to those who only have the other kind of logic that is available to > everyone. Can you give me an example of something understood by this other > kind of logic that cannot be understood through the logic that everyone else > has? > > My perspective is that the reasoning process used by believers and > unbelievers is the same. That reasoning process comes from God. > Unbelievers generally do not come to the same conclusions, not because of a > different reasoning process used by believers and unbelievers, but rather > because believers have received through revelation certain premises by which > they can reason, premises that remain hidden and unobservable by > unbelievers. > > Peace be with you. > David Miller. > > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
