RE: [TruthTalk] Intentional sin -- the Judas factor

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“Lost” means “Lost”. Not “saved”. It’s simple to the wise. It’s complex to the confused. J Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 3:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Intentional sin -- the Judas factor   Saying & meaning are not synonymous. Just ask David. I think it was he who originated that 'no syntactics contains it's own semantics' _expression_.   -- Original Message ----- From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: December 15, 2004 16:05 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Intentional sin -- the Judas factor   It matters several 'whits' to me that Jesus spoke of Judas. I do not believe that his (Jesus') meaning and the two of you (David (?) and Izzie) are the same meaning. Get my meaning? It's possible therefore, that you've miscontrued Jesus' meaning, eh?   Lance, In a word: No.  Jesus said what He said.  “none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.”  In spite of Jonathan’s very lengthy attempt to change the plain meaning of these simple words, the obvious meaning is clear and simple.  I assume you are at your whits end. Izzy