Re: [TruthTalk] Intentional sin -- the Judas factor

[Lance Muir]

I agree with you concerning me. Flawed but delightful and delovely (let's all sing along) ----- Original Message ----- From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: December 17, 2004 10:20 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Intentional sin -- the Judas factor Lance, I agree that your understanding does have its problems.  However, I am not having such problems. J Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 8:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Intentional sin -- the Judas factor   All of Jesus' words have meaning. Sometimes that meaning is not the one I understand and sometimes not yours, David's, Terry's, Slade's, Jeff's, Kay's, Jonathan's (Personally I believe the Bishop & Bill to have always apprehended the correct meaning) ----- Original Message ----- From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: December 17, 2004 09:06 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Intentional sin -- the Judas factor   With that theology, Jesus� words to �judge a tree by its fruit� has utterly no meaning.  Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hughes Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 7:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Intentional sin -- the Judas factor   Let me say it again:   King David: Bad Fruit, Good guy, accepted in Christ. Abraham: Bad Fruit, Good guy, accepted in Christ. Terry (and everyone else on TT including the sinless one): Bad Fruit, Good guy, accepted in Christ.   Actually, it wasn�t me that said that.  I am just repeating it for your listening pleasure.   Jonathan   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 7:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Intentional sin -- the Judas factor   Jeff Powers wrote: It means despite some misguided attempts at interpreting scripture John thinks as I do, Judas Iscariot is not neccessarily burning in hell. Judas did what he did from the heart, he loved Yeshua and in his own way was attempting to force Yeshua's hand. Did it backfire? some might say yes, but it worked according to God's plan. To me thats as it had to be.  But some have to kick the scapegoat even harder than he kicked himself. May I suggest an intense study of Jewish history? It seems lacking here! jeff ============================================= Let me say it again.  Good fruit, good guy.  Bad fruit, bad guy.  The old wheat and tares thing.  Actually, it wasn't me that said that.  I am just repeating it for your listening pleasure. Terry   --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.797 / Virus Database: 541 - Release Date: 11/15/2004   --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.797 / Virus Database: 541 - Release Date: 11/15/2004